Gahhhhh crap, fantasy football drafts are happening RIGHT NOW, and I am CRAZY UNPREPARED. When did this happen? It totally snuck up on me. I got back from vacation the other night and spent three hours reading up on training camp reports, and I’m now barely up to speed. BARELY. I still can’t name the Dolphins rookie vying for carries with Reggie Bush, but I’ve got another week to iron that out. In the meantime, let’s not judge ol’ Caveman too harshly for his woeful incompetence at fantasy football advice.
Lucky for all of you, I don’t have to read up on new sex positions every August just to stay abreast of all the hottest trends in fornication. There’s a finite number of holes in the human body, and most of them have already been used for sex. It’s not too often we break new ground in this department, and for that I’m thankful.
Let’s get to your questions.
Mighty Masters of Mound Munching,
Football first. Two part question for ya. With Ryan Williams out for the season, is Beanie Wells a solid option for a flex guy? And if so, who should I trade between Jamaal Charles, Michael Turner, and LeSean? (3rd year of a 10 team dynasty league, played my cards right with Charles and McCoy [and Beanie too, I guess]).
Whoa whoa whoa. You have Jamaal Charles, LeSean McCoy, Michael Turner, and Beanie Wells… and the guy you’re looking to hold on to is BEANIE WELLS? Don’t get me wrong, I think Wells is a great flex option, but with your roster I’d look to shop him before your three stud RBs. Why not propose a few trades to RB-starved teams first? Savvy players will likely counter with demands for one of your better backs, but hey, there are plenty of retarded Ohio State homers itching to put more Buckeyes on their team. Can’t hurt to try.
Sex. One of my best friends from high school is getting married in one month at the ripe old age of 22. I’m going to the wedding and wasn’t planning on bringing a date. But just the other day, I ran into a girl from high school I haven’t seen in probably 3+ years. I had a thing for her back in the day, but it never really materialized. She’s still very very cute, and there’s definitely still some chemistry between us. We talked for about half and hour before the wedding came up. Apparently she was a reception-only invite. When she found out I didn’t have a date, she essentially asked herself for me, so I guess we’re going together.
Now I realize this doesn’t necessarily mean she wants to have sex with me, but she is kind of “free spirited” and really has next to no inhibitions when she drinks, so I’m thinking it’s a definite possibility.
Definitely maybe!
The problem is this: the word amongst my friends is that she picked up herpes in college. Maybe I’m just uneducated, but herpes scares the shit out of me. I’ve only had sex in long term relationships with fairly inexperienced girls, so I’ve never really had to acknowledge its existence before. So if she has the herp, I’ll be steering clear, because it makes your dick turn green and fall off, right?
But there is, of course, the legitimate chance that she doesn’t have anything and that someone started some nasty rumor about her, as part of some passive-aggressive bitchy cold war. Who knows. All I know is that i want to have sex with her, but she might be contaminated. I realize there’s a lot of pussy out there, but I really don’t want to pass on the chance to hook up with this girl unless I really have to. It’d just be really satisfying to get one of the ones that got away. So my question for you is…what’s my move? Is this something I ask her about? Or at least ask her friends about? Or should I just double wrap and go all in either way?
Sincerely, Mr. My-Penis-Is-Scared
If you ask her friends if she has herpes, that information will be funneled back to her IMMEDIATELY. It’s the #1 way to guarantee you won’t get laid.
Your question is filled with so many conditions and hypothetical situations (“This girl who’s kind of my date might want to sleep with me but maybe she has herpes although it’s possible that’s just a rumor…”) that I’d need to write thousands of words to cover every possible outcome, and I don’t have any desire to do that, especially since the mailbag has tackled various herpes-related questions in the past.
Just relax. Treat it like every situation in life: don’t expect to get laid, but bring a condom just in case.
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My Dearest Caveman -
FF – Not entirely a football question, but directly FF league question. One of the guys in my fantasy league wants to offer a trophy for the winner at an additional cost. I have no problem paying for a portion of the trophy for the winner, but the guy who is organizing the trophy money wants to do so in honor of a former league member who died earlier this year. I would also be okay with this if the person who died had not shot himself. I do not think suicide is something that should be honored. He asked everyone to vote, and I voted no. Now, he’s extremely pissed off and calling my boyfriend whining about how I knew the guy and should be willing to honor him. The thing that upsets me the most (more than him asking for a vote and then getting upset that I didn’t vote how he wanted and more than him calling my boyfriend instead of directly discussing this with me) is that he’s willing to pay my portion of the trophy to honor the guy who shot himself, but if he pays and I win I don’t get the trophy. How should I handle this situation?
Man, your commissioner is a total gash. I can see why his friends are killing themselves.
While I respect your reasoning for the dissenting vote, I can’t help but feel that you’re taking a hard stance on something that people have close emotional ties to. That kind of thing ALWAYS leads to hurt feelings; emotion and reason don’t mingle well. The fact that you object to suicide doesn’t trump other people’s remembrance of their friend.
Not that you still can’t come out ahead in this scenario. My recommendation: long-term, carefully planned REVENGE. Rather than get into a pissing match with the commissioner (and dragging your boyfriend into an argument he wants NO part of), you should explain your vote to the commissioner, apologize, and offer to chip in for the trophy. Then you can spend all season calling it “the Coward’s Cup” and making T-shirts that say “I shot myself in the face and all I got for it was eternal damnation and this fantasy football trophy named after me.” Hell, if you win the league, you can spend the offseason plastering the trophy with suicide prevention mini-plaques. “Don’t kill yourself unless the lockout affects the NFL season,” etc.
Another thing you and your league-mates can do is pretend to be grown-ups and enjoy a cash prize instead of having a trophy for pretend football. I love FF, but let’s not kid ourselves: it’s the sports fans’ version of Dungeons & Dragons. If you feel you MUST have a trophy, don’t spend money on it. Recycle one from somebody’s childhood, or make one out of papier-mâché and used condoms. It’ll be just as meanignful, and just as worthy of display in your home.
Sex – My cervix is in a weird position and it’s difficult for me to have sex missionary style or sideways. I’m in a long term relationship and it seems that the traditional thing that had always worked for us – me on top until I have an orgasm/him hitting me from behind until he has an orgasm – isn’t really working any more. It’s not that we don’t want to have sex, and we pride ourselves that after being together for 2+ years we still have a very active sex life (3-5 times a week), but it seems that doing the same thing for so long is becoming tiresome and we usually just end up masturbating rather than having sex. Any suggestions for new positions so we don’t have to succumb to pleasing ourselves?
The Indians were all over two millennia ago. If you’re old-fashioned, you can buy the book on Amazon for the low low price of $5.32. Cheapskates and people who want answers now may favor Cosmo’s expansive list of articles about sex positions, while horny dudes just want to see some lesbians demonstrate the best Kama Sutra positions.
Am I right, broheim? Up top! (Plenty more of that at FHM, by the way.)
And, in lieu of the tiresome positions, he’s becoming more interested in having anal sex (no cervix to worry about there),
I should hope not.
and I wouldn’t mind if we could figure out a way where it didn’t hurt so much. We’ve tried lubes, finger warm ups, etc…but it’s still just too painful. Any advice for a newbie to the anal game?
Anti-Suicide, Pro-Sex
I’m not a pro at anal sex myself, and I’d hate to sound off on this subject when we have so many experienced sodomites in the comments section, but I think you could benefit from a small/mid-size vibrator. If you think about it, there’s a pretty critical leap in the diameter of a finger versus that of a penis (ideally, at least), and your tight little sphincter could probably use some practice with something larger than a finger but smaller than a dick.
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Hey CC, hope you had a good vacation.
You know, I really did. Thank you for your thoughtfulness, UNLIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
Fantasy: I have the number three pick this year and (as I’m sure others are) am worried regarding the CJ2K contract situation. Would you take the chance on Johnson given his holdout and the offense he plays with, or bypass the headache altogether and just go with Ray Rice (hopefully one of the mooks ahead of me goes through with his promise to take Vick #2 and I can reap the rewards).
It’s a justifiable concern. Common sense would dictate that both Chris Johnson and the Titans would benefit from him playing, but you never want to spend your #1 draft pick on some guy who ends up going all Vincent Jackson on you. If Cop Speed hasn’t signed a new deal by the time of your draft, and assuming the first two picks of the draft are Arian Foster and AP, then yeah, I’d probably take Ray Rice or Jamaal Charles. That pick’s too valuable to spend it on a question mark.
Sex: Well this question is about marriage, so technically it’s the end of my sex life (hey-o). What’s the rule for engagement rings? I’ve heard 3-6 months salary, but granted those are all women answering. Do I trust one good friend of hers to bring with me to help me pick one out? Thanks for your help.
-LTF
Do women pay for engagement rings? No? Then why THE FUCK are you asking them how much to spend? Talk to people with boots-on-the-ground experience: men who’ve bought engagement rings.
Sorry if I’m a little touchy about that subject, but the “3-6 months’ salary” estimate from your female friends makes them sound like entitled cunts. The “industry standard” — if you can call it that — is two months’ salary, thanks to a worldwide campaign by DeBeers, which upped it from one month’s salary sometime in the 1990s. And you can trust DeBeers, the company that re-shaped women’s expectations (and men’s bank accounts) in approximately the span of a generation thanks to millions of dollars in advertising and restricting supplies to keep prices high.
But I’m not going to launch into some boring rant against blood diamonds and capitalism and all that. It is what it is, and we can’t change the fact that most women want a shiny bauble to show off to their friends when they become affianced. Get an idea of what your girlfriend wants/likes by talking to her friends (or directly to her), and then buy the nicest ring you can afford. It’s important to make her happy, but it’s even more important to be able to buy a house later on down the line.
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Dear KSK,
Sex: What’s the best way to find out if a bartender is single without being a creeper? If she is, what are the chances the “want to grab a drink after you’re off?” line will work? I understand that hitting on bartenders, especially at a place you frequent, is frowned upon, but so is masturbating on an airplane. Thanks a lot, bin Laden.
Pfffft, says you. I’ve definitely had some skyjackings post-9/11. You just gotta be quick about things.
I really, really, really hate to address the bartender question again, but the basics merit occasional repeating: (1) She is paid to serve you drinks in a friendly fashion. (2) Typically, the sexier and flirtier she is with male patrons, the more she gets paid. (3) If she’s actually taken notice of you as a potential sexual partner, she has also seen all of your behavior at said bar, from general drunken idiocy to whichever women you might have made out with. (4) The best way to win her over is by stopping in for a drink during slow hours, conversing with her, and leaving before you’re tipsy. Repeat this two or three times (not all in the same week). If she remembers your name on that second or third visit, that’s as good of a green light as you’re likely to get. (5) If she turns you down, all of your future visits to that bar will be imbued with awkwardness. (6) If all of this sounds like too much time and effort, that’s because it is.
Football: With the fourth pick in a twelve-team league I’m probably going to take Jamaal Charles then have a number of good choices when my next two picks come around. Marmalard, who by all accounts is going to be a stud this year, will probably be available in the second or third. On the other hand, I have a good feeling about Orton this year. What say you on stocking up on a solid WR and RB instead of taking a QB early then swooping up Orton in like the sixth or seventh?
-Huge Fan of This Bar’s Hiring Standards
It’s a riskier approach than I would attempt in a draft, but there’s obvious upside if you’re right (and, importantly, IF you get Orton). However, for perspective, while I was on vacation, I autodrafted in a team in a 16-team league (16!), and I somehow came away with this lineup (minus bench/K/DST):
QB: Sam Bradford
RB: Cedric Benson
RB: LeGarrette Blount
WR: Roddy White
WR: Andre Johnson
TE: Antonio Gates
Obviously, I’m not bragging because the computer did the work, but I was astounded that I could get two top-tier WRs, two decent starting running backs, the game’s best tight end, and an okay young QB in such a large league. It reminded me that while it certainly helps to have a top-tier quarterback on your team, the best route in the draft is to strike a balance between your needs and the best talent available.
So, see how the draft goes: if there’s a run on wideouts and you don’t like the best WR available at #21, pick Rivers. Plan B: hope Rivers is around in round 3, or settle for someone like Matt Schaub. Plan C: Orton. Kyle Orton is EVERYONE’S Plan C.
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O Captain, My Captain:
Fantasy football first. I have the third overall pick in my PPR league, and I’m almost 99% sure that Arian Foster and Adrian Peterson are going 1-2 in some order. In standard scoring, I’d take Jamaal Charles next without a second’s hesitation, but I noticed that LeSean McCoy had 78 grabs last year on the Eagles. Would it be a reach to grab him with the third pick, knowing that Andy Reid’s red zone offense is a goddamn shot in the dark?
I would say it’s a slight reach. Charles is no slouch out of the backfield, either: he caught 45 passes with 10.4 YPC in 2010. If you need more of a head-t0-head comparison, I had both Charles and McCoy in a PPR league last year. Charles was the third-highest-scoring RB in the league (behind Foster and Hillis), while McCoy was 4th, just barely ahead of Adrian Peterson. I’d give Charles the edge because he’s the more talented player and won’t have Thomas Jones won’t be siphoning away his goal-line carries this year.
Finally, sex-ish. I’ll get right to the chase: I knocked up my girlfriend, and we agreed that she should terminate the pregnancy (both in college and want to have careers and financial stability before we pump out kids). She prompted it first, and since we caught the pregnancy early on, she can get rid of the thing with pills, and everything seems to be settled on that front. However, she seems to be taking it all very, very smoothly, to the point of cracking jokes about me being a ‘daddy’ and whatnot. I assume she’s trying to lighten the mood, but I worry that she’s not taking the whole thing very seriously. I’ve heard that abortion is very hard on the mother, and I’m worried that she’s not mentally prepared for this choice. So, I guess my question is, am I freaking out over nothing? In this enlightened day and age, are women just super cool about terminated pregnancies and I’m just being a stick in the mud?
For the record, I’m pro-choice and all that other good stuff, but it’s still difficult to stare in the face. I’m just not getting how she can do it.
-DelicateFlower
As usual, I’m not an expert on the inner workings of female plumbing (too many hidden parts), but as I understand it, the pills your lady’s gonna take will kick-start her period, and the very tiny fetus will pass from her body before she gets attached to the idea of being a mother and having a baby inside of her. It’s not a fraction as traumatic as a clinical abortion procedure or a D&C.
My take? Be glad that she isn’t super-Catholic and intent on having the kid and ending your life as you know it. Lighten up, Nancy.





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Tons of real-life stories about abortion, not the OMG I FEEL SO GUILTY AND EVIL. One out of three American woman will have an abortion, it’s the most common surgical procedure for women.
Yikes…I could use an interruption…..
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wow, I was pro choice until Gunner championed the cause…what a douche…monkey business, looks like you have a challenger to your throne.
Haha – several dudes arguing about abortion in the comments of a football humor site.
Way to go, KSK Nation.
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@Bloodyhandedgod
LSAT coming up?
@g1ca: seriously, you are two different people when you (as opposed to the rest of us heavy abusers) drink. Get help or get the fuck away from one of my favorite blogs. I could use the gas-chromat that I have in my basement (yeah, weird present I got when I was TWELVE, but I like to think the doctorate classes before 14 trump your constant need to talk about yourself) to confirm that you’re on the edge of losing it to the bottle, but I’ve already tried to warn you in the past and I’ve got non-science things to do for my job. Stop fucking ruining threads for the rest of us. You’re old, drunk, or both. Please get help or go away.
And I do believe Mr. Anti-Abortion, Timothy Tebow himself, may wish Merrill Hoge’s mom had done the dirt.
Do any of these pawn shops offer similar “deep cuts” on abortions?
/I’ll be here all week.
//Tip your waitress.
Some abortions bother some people some of the time. Other abortions bother no one all of the time. No abortions bother some people some of the time.
/believe that did not cover anything
//leaves
“You should find yourself a safehouse or a relative close by.”
For the dude with the girl getting getting the abortion, much like CC said, it’s because she’s not having the traditional procedure.
A girl can pop a Plan B pill and have brunch with you at IHOP later, no problem. That’s not a real abortion.
The real deal is practically a weekend of depression, weird pains, and diarrhea. They’re teetering between thinking of themselves as murderers and the actual physical exhaustion of the process. Those two feelings work together to intensify it all.
So, if she’s joking about it… be glad you got a cool one. I’ve been with girls who take the Plan B pill — not even a legit abortion pill — and resent me later for it. Girls don’t usually have a good sense of humor about voluntarily kick starting their period a week or two in advance.
Wait…why would it “hit her hard?” It’s just a medical procedure, right? I didn’t cry when I got a wart frozen off my left butt cheek. What’s the difference?
Regarding the chemical abortion – and the regular vacuum kind – it will catch up to her afterwards. In the abstract, which is probably is for her now, it seems very straightforward and easy. Once it’s over, the hormones and emotions go crazy. That is when she will have the problems.
Get her some flowers, be ready with junk food and a movie, and let her cry if she needs to. I guarantee, as someone who has been through it, that it will hit her, hard, after it’s all over.
The ixnay ona the bortionay ostpays is an excellent gif.
Slash agreed.
Other regrets (not of women necessarily); not enough sodomy.
RE abortion: I’ve never had one, but this idea (mostly dreamed up by the anti-abortion nutjobs) that all women will inevitably regret an abortion and be forever haunted by the memory of their tiny murdered child is bullshit. Of course some women do regret an abortion, but women regret lots of things, including the sex that made the abortion seem necessary in the first place. I don’t think abortion is even in the top 5 major regrets most women have. I think ill-advised marriages and sexual partners would probably fill up most women’s top 5 list of regrets before an abortion would ever be mentioned.
Note: This should not be interpreted as an endorsement of the “selective” abortions that are apparently extremely common in India and China. That shit is fucked up.
@ Mr. MPIS: the real issue is, if you find yourself in a carnal embrace with your date, whether the thought of herp-derp will be a boner killer. This might be a good time to act “the gentleman” until you can quantify your intel.
Speaking of “killing” the abortion discussion was a real buzzkill. O’ course, anal avoids all a’ that . . .
@LendaleWhite’sDietician; please go on to the next post as it is “funny.”
Whomever said it up previously was spot on, poke around your widowed older relatives. They are a wealth of jewelry. I got lucky, my great aunt gave me this ridiculously huge loose stone (almost 2 CT). The future Mrs. nearly fainted. Her mother refused to believe it was real when she saw it. All I did was present the stone and had her pick out the setting she wanted. I think the biggest win in all that is the complete absence of thought required by me in that whole transaction.
I was looking for a football humor site. I guess I need to move on.
No sense arguing with some of these people, since I’ve learned one major thing over the course of interacting on these here Internets:
Don’t argue with an idiot. They’ll drag you down to their level, and then beat you with experience.
On the engagement ring front: The “propose, then pick one she likes” philosophy worked pretty well for my bride and I. She got what she wanted, and I didn’t have to sell any organs to pay for it.
On a football note: I should mention that I hate, hate, HATE having the first pick of the draft.
pawn shops can rule…. got my 5 yr GF a .5c oval/ nice gold setting for $500. nowhere near 1 month’s take, but she was delighted w/it and so were her friends. Take it from an old guy, that’s what matters!! “bitches be crazy” but [some]
make life worth livin’.
Some friends of mine spent big on a three week vacation (honeymoon) and a down payment on a house and bought inexpensive rings, it was a mutual decision with “negotiation.” Years later they are still happy about it, and really they should stop talking about it.
@Gunner’s Mate 1st Class Philip Asshole
That’s a fairly inaccurate representation of the Sotah ritual. Those verses relate only to an adulteress. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sotah
Otto, if you weren’t already married, I would propose to you right now with someone else’s grandma’s ring I bought at a pawn shop in Delaware.
Pawn shops can be either hit or miss, find a cool one that doesn’t have brand new prices on 10 year old shit and chat up an employee. Don’t hesitate to negotiate/make an offer, just don’t be a jackass about it. Most pawn shops are buried in gold and diamonds with the whole cash for gold craze. Try to find one that will sell you a loose stone so you don’t get raped for gold you aren’t even going to use.
Also, I regret that over the course of my life I haven’t caused more ladies to have abortions.
I didn’t know that pawn shops were a good place to shop for diamonds. I occasionally have shopped at pawn shops for electronics, but I find that their prices aren’t that much better than buying brand new items at a place like Best Buy.
@Otto Man
You are on fire!!
Abortion – I’ve been on both sides of that fence and believe both choices were correct given the specific situations. When in doubt, don’t spout absolutes and tell people what they should do/feel.
Diamonds – Two words = Pawn Shop Buy twice the diamond for half the price and put it in a custom setting she picks out for the win. Even chic’s that aren’t money grubbing psycho’s want a nice ring to shove in their friends faces. Make sure you get future dad in laws permission. It’s a classy move and he is someone you will be interacting with for a long time.
Did we just get into a pie fight about abortion! Fck yea comments section. I’m going to live forever due to my diet of fetuses.
Oh forgot
/Anal
/Dick Joke
Honest question – at what point does repeat abortions from the same woman become an eyebrow cruncher?
As in wtf bitch – stop fekking. Or at LEAST use protection.
Vis-a-vis Evolution. While my lowly B.S. in Biochem doesn’t match up to GM1CA, isn’t it * possible * that evolution is part of God’s plan? (History Channel, Vatican Spokesman)
Beyond that, did anyone else read the blurb (I think Scientific American) that there is a larger than Sagan-esque possibility we are A L O N E in the entire universe.
THAT opens up a lot of scary thoughts.
@Hochuli’s Pythons
“You, me, nor anyone on this forum, in any building, nor a part of any religion, should be telling another person what to do with their body.”**
**Unless it involves sticking things in asses.
/fixed
Note: people would always rather bitch about civil liberties and religion than discuss the ins and outs of anal sex.
In fairness, all three of those things involve assholes.
PoRelFlaWa!
Sounds like a Mexican rapper.
@Otto: “Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident.”
@Steelers fan in peru
About the anal sex: that sounds about right, but for the love of god, make sure that you trim your fingernails first, especially the thumb. If you scratch anything, you’re opening a cut in an area that is warm, dark, slightly damp, and is exposed to bacteria all day long, which is bad.
Just want to throw this out there: the mention of a soul was in the cartoon at the beginning of the post. Just sayin’
/googles “bible passages supporting abortion”
//finds Numbers chapter 5
///awards self Doctorate in Ophthalmic Medicine
////shows self out
Note: people would always rather bitch about civil liberties and religion than discuss the ins and outs of anal sex.
So noted.
How about an actual anchor?
no no no! vibrator for clit, plug for ass! if you use a vibrator in your ass there’s a very good chance that it will get stuck and an ER trip will ensue! anything you put in your ass should be anchored somehow!
Kyle Orton was Mrs. Kyle Orton’s Plan C
Otto – I had the EXACT same reaction. Wanted to chime in on the diamond thing, but me too scared.
I really don’t want to keep this going but I just can’t resist..
I’m beyond any place where I can so easily to be fucked with.
I AM SAFELY ENSCONSED IN MY MOONBASE THAT I TRAVLED TO USING MY SCIENCE!
young people can reclaim our scientific future
WHO STOLE OUR SCIENTIFIC FUTURE? WAS IT TIM TEBOW??
I’ve been educated as a genuine scientist: molecular biology, organic chemistry, physics, and a goddamn Doctorate in Ophthalmic Medicine and it drives me fucking insane that persons of zero equivalent knowledge claim the same authority as that that I’ve learned and am practicing on a daily basis.
I’M THE ONLY ONE WHO IS ALLOWED TO TALK ON THIS SUBJECT, I HAVE SO MUCH MORE SCIENCE THAN YOU. NO ONE CAN CHALLENGE ANY OF MY ARGUEMENTS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SCIENCE TO DO SO.
Thanks, chazz_goodtimes! You’re setting us back further than you can possibly know.
How exactly? Because I think you’re a breathless dipshit? I love how you assign viewpoints, religious beliefs (apparently I’m Catholic?), and arguements to people so you can create a platform for yourself to jabber on about religion and science on a football blog. What do think you accomplished here? You must be super fun at parties.
For the record, there has only been one commenter, in nearly 100 comments on this post, that has said anything against abortion. There have been no commenters that have asserted any religous beliefs into anything they’ve wrote (other than you). If you learn anything here today (OTHER THAN SCIENCE) it should be this: Just because someone thinks you’re a first-rate dickbag, which is likely to be pretty much anyone who’s spent more than five minutes with you, doesn’t mean they are automatically some religious fundamentalist set out to destroy THE VERY FOUNDATION OF OUR SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY. It just means that you’re a first-rate dickbag.
@DelicateFlower
“I’ve heard that abortion is very hard on the mother, and I’m worried that she’s not mentally prepared for this choice.”
What you’ve “heard” is a concerted effort by organized religion to *ensure* that the population believes it to be very hard on everyone involved… when in reality, when you’ve barely fertilized the egg and it exits her body via normal menstrual cycle, it’s really not that big of a deal.
Fertilized eggs get dumped out by nature every day and killed… it happens millions of times a day in all species.
This isn’t to say that some thought can’t or shouldn’t go into the decision to become parents, but rather that your situation occurs constantly in nature… don’t sweat it. Be more careful next time, and for fuck’s sake, don’t listen to Catholics.
Hey, sorry I’m late to the conversation, did I miss anyth–
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(Backs away slowly)
RE: engagement rings… Guys, look at Moissanite. It’s a lab created diamond that is 99.9% of what a natural diamond is. I did this for my wife and I can attest to the quality. You tell her that you couldn’t imagine risking purchasing a blood diamond. THINK OF THE CHILDREN! You tell yourself that the ring is 1/3 of the price. Save the rest of your money for a down payment on a house…or save for the divorce lawyer.
Allow me, please, to weigh in on the whole abortion thing as I am a woman and have had a couple (whoops!).
It is not emotionally traumatic for most women. Studies have shown (and my anecdotal evidence agrees) that the primary emotion for women after abortion is relief. That nutgag up there getting all Dilbert men’s rights accusing women of murder can go fucking pound sand for all I care. It’s just kind of a shame that there are dudes who still totally think it’s ok to force women to have children against their will.
If your girlfriend is making cracks, it’s probably because she is trying to let you know you don’t have to coddle her. Worry less. I know lots of chicks who have had abortions (you guys all do too, it’s just the judgmental bullshit that prevents them from telling you) and with the exception of terminating a wanted pregnancy (a completely different situation), they’re all pretty fucking glad they had them.
Blah, blah, blah, abortion, blah, blah blah.
People wake up! Let’s focus on what’s important. There is a young lady who needs advice on anal!
Try to relax your hiney area muscles, fight the impulse to contract the muscles. Good luck!
Well here’s a couple thoughts:
For anal, go finger, then THUMB, then dong. It’s a nice progression that loosens somebody up. But just like losing your regular virginity, its still gonna hurt the first couple times. try and go slow.
And on the last one about the smush-mortion. Those pills typically cause contractions AKA early labor, meaning it’s not usually a beautiful sight if you’re about 2 months in. Less and its more tolerable from what Ì understand. At 3 months you’d end up in the hospital…
“And for the record….. it was “yeah..right?” who first mentioned Jeebus.”
Uhh…the same guy.
Since when is the concept of a “soul” and exclusively Christian thing? The blue things in Avatar believe in it for chriminey’s sake!
CC knew what he was doing even publishing that letter. And for the record….. it was “yeah..right?” who first mentioned Jeebus.
Hmmm…who was the first one to introduce Biblical sources into this entire debate?
Bets on Gunner being a freshman philosophy major barista? YOU’RE LIKE THE SECOND COMING OF ANDY HUTCHINS!
Moose–
I give up. You win.
Your original swipe at Balls was based on theology ie the interpretation of scripture. You can’t play it both ways. Either we’re talking Christian theology or we aren’t. If we aren’t then don’t cherry pick Leviticus-era absurdities and say “Oooo this is what JEBUBS people REALLY think!”
Gravity Bongaroo–
Your biblical arguments are just theocratic idiocy.
Posit a scientific argument and we’ll be able to converse intelligently.
“formal grounding in Christian doctrine or belief” yeah, that helps.
Gunner; proceed….
Moose–
I’m beyond any place where I can so easily to be fucked with.
People in this country are being sentenced further and further away from being educated in the real sciences so that I feel true despair that our young people can reclaim our scientific future based on the proof of evolution from the idiocy of intelligent design.
I’ve been educated as a genuine scientist: molecular biology, organic chemistry, physics, and a goddamn Doctorate in Ophthalmic Medicine and it drives me fucking insane that persons of zero equivalent knowledge claim the same authority as that that I’ve learned and am practicing on a daily basis.
Thanks, chazz_goodtimes!
You’re setting us back further than you can possibly know.
Gunner’s Mate 1st Class Philip Asshole-
You are not very intelligent (see what a nice Christian insult that was!). You are citing Numbers as clear cut Christian morality. You’re worse than the people who cherry picked Obama gaffes and then claim that he’s clearly unfit to be president. You have absolutely no understanding of theology or an exegetical interpretation of scripture. To think that you, most likely some agnostic/atheist with next to no formal grounding in Christian doctrine or belief, can jump in and interpret the Bible for is among the most pigheaded things one can do.
In addition, DF, your girl is gonna need a lot of water and a lot of Advil and a lot of understanding, for a good solid two weeks. And that’s just the physical aspect. It sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders and you know what to do.
I can’ even begin to address this other bullshit, but know that 99% of the commenters here mean well.
@DelicateFlower; been there done that; it was not easy for either of us, but I’m glad I didn’t have a kid at that age.
Good luck, please skip the asshole comments (including mine).
I’ll put in my petrol:
Gunner; the concept of a soul is hardly a christian concept; they just adopted it (get it? adopted). The concept existed long before in a spiritual and/ or philosophic way. Even if chazz wasn’t fucking with you his avatar is. I know you like to call people on their shit, but quit being so easy to fuck with.
chazz_goodtimes–
I’ll believe that fucking bullshit the same time I believe in your god.
Peace.
and this stopped being fun way to deal with working a past midnight. Fuck you very much Hong Kong for having a totally different timezone.
Gunnersmate- I’m fucking with you because you seemed like an excitable blowhard asshat (totally proved me wrong of course) and I’m bored. Truth is I’m agnostic and couldn’t give a shit about your thoughts on religion, organized or otherwise, or those of anyone else.
Delicatflower- glad things worked out for you and the lady. Can’t imagine what you’re going through / went through but I would guess if there’s any lingering issues for either of you they’ll fade in time.
chazz_goodtimes–
Oh for fuck’s sake just get killed.
That’s what you wanted for me, right?
Your religious justifications mean nothing to anyone who has a functioning brain in the 21st century.
And if your experiences with Rabbi Rosenpenis are anything similar to what has happened to young Catholic boys then I not only understand your psychopathy but am genuinely sorry for your suffering at the hands of your clergy.
As for the rest of your rant, I’m afraid none of it makes any sense at all.
No matter who taught you what religion it’s all wrong and you’re still completely delusional.
Cheers!
I just checked back in on this thread (because I knew the inevitable consequence would be a PoFlaWa or RelFlaWa), but Delicate Flower, I’m glad things worked out for you. Let the haters hate. As long as the two of you know and believe you made the right choice, that’s all that matters.
You might have a point, I tried to fulfill my religion / philosophy requirement in college by taking a class called ‘religious elements of the jewish short story’, but then found out senior year that the class didn’t satisfy the requirement for some reason- even though it was taught by a Rabbi. The dean of the religious studies department was a total dick-bag about it and I ended up having to beg the dean of the poly sci department to let my american political thought class count towards satisfying the religion / philosophy requirement. The whole thing ALMOST put a serious damper on my spring break that year.
Anyway, I guess the paucity (nice work with the shift F7 btw!) of my education on the matter is a result of all that paperwork and time spent reading with Rabbi Rosenpenis.
So I’ll remain happily ignorant but comforted by the knowledge that this hardly the forum in which to act like such a fart sniffing shit weasel over some troll’s comment.
PS. I tots don’t wish your mom had an abortion, but maybe that she just drank a little less during her pregnancy.
PPS. Is this a flame war? AM I IN A FLAME WAR? This is so exciting. Wait, am I the troll? This is super new to me! Normally I just make dick jokes and try to share any relevant experience I might have regarding the sexy time and or fantasy football but the change of pace is rather enjoyable.
@Balls Still Attached (Though I question the validity of that name)
You, me, nor anyone on this forum, in any building, nor a part of any religion, should be telling another person what to do with their body.
Expecting chazz_goodtimes to vanish into the dustbin of history alongside *Balls Still Attached in three…two…one…
Make a genuine argument or go the fuck home *Balls.
Cheers!
Thanks to everyone for their advice. I did drive her there, and everything’s been pretty smooth. She was actually nervous on the ride over, so I got to play the role of comforter. They gave her some pills and explained everything, and apparently it’s pretty gross, but everything is okay for the time being.
And for what it’s worth, it was as much my choice to abort the baby as it was hers. So… yeah.
By the way, there is no sense of relief greater than picking up abortion pills. Seriously. It’s like smoking a cigarette, getting a massage, and popping a valium all at once. I am ‘on call’ so to speak, so if she’s feeling upset or anything, I’m available to talk and whatnot. As Uff suggested, I needed to lighten up, and now that I have, I feel great.
tl;dr: Abortion is totally rad. To the max.
They didn’t start towell service until after 2:00 PM. HARDCORE
chazz-goodtimes–
Bringing it to your level:
Why the fuck would a fucking non-christian give any fucking kind of fucking fuck that any fucker would fucking abort their fucking blastocyst with any fucking consequences?
S’up *Balls!
Fucking Pre-Season. Fuck.