Bill Simmons Is God Of Hollywood
07.05.11
As you fair readers know, we usually spend the beginning of every week here at KSK doing our whole lofty Fun With Peter King business. But because Peter King is on vacation for the next FOUR weeks (I sure hope he got to do nothing, like he said he did! No one has earned it more!), and because he left any number of informative and competent people to replace him over at SI.com in the interim, we’re gonna have to spend the next few Mondays (or, in this case, Tuesdays) finding new people to anally fisk. So I guess we should probably look around for someone who rivals Peter in terms of gushing about personal access and being a relatively easy target… OOOH! OOH I GOT IT! BILL SIMMONS HAS A FEW THOUGHTS ABOUT RYAN REYNOLDS! That’ll do!
Anyway, when we last left Bill, he was starting up the Billington Post and explaining to you how he hoped the beginning of his new website rivaled the momentousness of that one time Coldplay played on Jimmy Kimmel Live. And who can forget that seminal occasion? It’s like TV history and music history had gloppy wet sex with one another and gave birth to a NEW kind of history! He also started a reality television league, because reality television stars are so stoopid! Look at how dumb they are! Isn’t it funny when I point out how dumb they are? Anyway, while we were away last week, Simmons took it upon himself to explain Hollywood to you, the outsider. Because he’s just like you. He’s the voice of the fan, if the fan was immensely wealthy, lived in Los Angeles, had absolutely NO sense of self-deprecation, and was a complete prick. Read on…
In Hollywood, (the) Mo Williams dilemma hangs over everything.
So true. Whenever I see a really shitty Hollywood movie, I always hope that someone will explain to me how that shitty movie can be likened to a shitty basketball team. Because comparing sports to pop culture all the time totally enriches the two. You there! Mr. Sports Fan! I know you think movies are gay, but what if I were to explain movies to you strictly in sportsy terms? I THINK YOU AND I COULD TALK ABOUT KATE HUDSON A LITTLE BIT MORE IF I MADE A CORRELATION BETWEEN HER AND JAMAL CRAWFORD.
We arrived to a point in which the following two facts are indisputable.
NO ONE WILL DENY THEM.
Fact: People believe Will Smith is the world’s biggest movie star (even though he doesn’t make great movies).
Fact: People believe Ryan Reynolds is a movie star (even though he isn’t).
So true. Ryan Reynolds? Not a movie star. Sure, he’s rich, and handsome, and stars in MOVIES, and has sex with very famous women. But is he a movie star, according to Bill Simmons’ arbitrary metrics for a term that has any number of definitions depending upon whom you ask? Don’t be such a fool.
Let’s tackle Reynolds first.
Indeed. Let’s do that. I won’t rest until you’ve gotten to the bottom of the Reynolds enigma.
When Green Lantern badly underperformed last weekend, it shouldn’t have been surprising, because Reynolds isn’t a movie star (despite Hollywood’s best efforts to convince us otherwise).
I’m pretty sure the movie tanked because it was awful.
You know how I know this?
BECAUSE I LIVE IN LOS ANGELES NOW AND I UNDERSTAND “THE INDUSTRY,” WHICH IS WHAT WE IN THE INDUSTRY CALL THE INDUSTRY.
We just spent the past 10 years compiling evidence that said, emphatically, “Ryan Reynolds can’t carry a bad movie.” Or, really, any movie.
Okay. Cool. Thank God we’ve established that. I can finally rest now that I know Ryan Reynolds isn’t a 40% legit movie star. Now to move on to our next pressing issue: DO BEAVERS HAVE DREAMS?!
Don’t worry, this won’t turn into an “I hate Ryan Reynolds” rant.
Don’t worry, gang. I’m not here to actually burn bridges with someone I might run into at the Soho House.
I actually like Ryan Reynolds.
RYAN REYNOLDS: Phew! Good thing the sports columnist with an incredibly inflated sense of self-worth likes me!
/goes back to fucking hot women on top of a pile of hundred dollar bills
This isn’t his fault. Other than his dreadful “Amityville Horror” remake, I can’t remember watching a Reynolds movie and thinking it failed specifically because of him (you know, the opposite of how I feel during every Luke Wilson movie).
O HO HO!!!! Burrrrrned ya, Luke Wilson! Way to completely ruin movies like “Old School” and “Bottle Rocket,” which were actually good movies that you were perfectly fine in.
Compared to his peers in the secretly valuable Matthew McConaughey All-Stars — a.k.a. guys who star in movies that are guaranteed to end up showing on an airplane, whether it’s a generic action romp, a gross-out comedy that’s neither gross nor funny, or any type of romantic comedy involving a career-driven woman who lies to everyone around her to find herself a man…
NOTE: All movies are shown on airplanes.
I would take Reynolds over Ashton Kutcher, Patrick Dempsey and Aaron Eckhart.
Seriously, what the fuck are we even talking about at this point? I feel like I’m in the middle of “Inception” (which Ellen Page TOTALLY ruined, by the way, because women ruin movies with their massive dripping vaginas) and someone made up a bunch of random rules that make no goddamn sense.
He’s the most versatile half-decent actor out there, and I swear that wasn’t a backhanded compliment.
Just to reiterate: Ryan, brah, we can still TOTALLY hang out at Soho House.
3.
OOH FOOTNOTE! THE EXTRA INNINGS OF SHITTY WRITING!
I hope John Krasinski doesn’t end up in this group.
So true. Allow me for a second to also condescend to famous people so that I sound like the fucking LORD OF HOLLYWOOD. People, I’m very much concerned about Steve Carell’s ability to hold up a big screen comedy on the heels of leaving “The Office”. After all, we all know that show ran on NARD DOG fumes for the past few years. Also, check Carell’s IMDB. NOT A MOVIE STAR.
I feel like he’s slightly better than that.
Just a little, but not by much. Call it 25.8% better. My analysis of the movie starness of movie stars is IRONCLAD.
By the way, Vegas won’t even take odds on Bradley Cooper ending up on this list within two years.
Because then Cousin Sal and I would gamble on it and we would beat Vegas because WE KNOW HOLLYWOOD! What are the odds that Brad Cooper ends up doing Skinemax porn with that one chick from “The Challenge” VEGAS AIN’T LETTING US TOUCH THAT! THAT’S FREE MONEY!
Reynolds has three things going for him:
1. He’s friends with my boy, Seth Meyers!
2. He understands the importance of the piano riff on “Clocks”!
3. He secretly thinks Kobe Bryant is a fag! NICE!
I’d compare the “leading man” position to the NFL’s quarterback position — we need 32 starting QB’s every year regardless of whether we actually have 32 good ones, just like we need 40 to 45 leading men every year regardless of whether have 40 to 45 good ones. That makes Reynolds someone like Alex Smith…
My brain is dying.
I had an argument recently with my friend Lewis about whether Jim Carrey was still a movie star. Lewis said, adamantly, no effing way. I disagreed.
Will I tell my grandkids I once saw a Jim Carrey movie? Yes. VERDICT: Movie Star. My judging criteria are unassailable.
The truth is, most people don’t know how to define a “movie star.”
So true. This is because they don’t live in Hollywood and understand the way Hollywood works, as would a sportswriter who spent a grand total of 18 months working on a TV show. I feel bad for the little people, really. They walk through life thinking Ryan Reynolds is a movie star because he stars in movies, when they don’t really understand the true machinations behind it all. IF ONLY I COULD SHOW THEM HOW IT ALL COMES BACK TO ROBERT HORRY.
Take Tobey Maguire:
Yes. Let’s TACKLE Tobey Maguire. Don’t you think he’s just like Trent Dilfer?!
Unless his next movie has “Spider-Man” in the title, are people going out of their way to see it? Of course not. That means he’s not a movie star.
Except that he’s rich and famous and HOLY SHIT WHAT DOES ANY OF THIS EVEN MEAN?
Listen folks, you want a decent roundup of why Hollywood makes terrible movies, just read this. Trust me.
Jamie Foxx won an Oscar for Ray, but that didn’t make him a movie star; he’s just a famous person who acts and sings.
AND STARS IN MOVIES.
Bruce Willis can’t be a movie star anymore unless the words “Die” and “Hard” are involved.
Honestly, he may as well sell insurance at this point.
And yet, if you asked the average person if Carrey, Maguire, Foxx and Willis were movie stars, they would invariably say yes.
This is the problem with Americans. You see, they lack Bill Simmons’ ability to SEE Hollywood, not unlike how Rajon Rondo can see the floor at a Celtics game. This is why Hollywood shouldn’t be allowed to cast anyone in any film without first consulting a Blue Ribbon Panel of Hollywood Experts consisting of Bill, Chuck Klosterman, and the giant anus in which both men reside and share coffee with one another.
I believe there are 24 male movie stars right now…
I read the stat in “Outliers”!
…a funny number…
Interesting. My own randomly generated number has meaning BEYOND the value to which I assigned it! Watch!
…since that takes the NBA All-Star analogy full circle.
So true. Ryan Reynolds IS Emaka Okafor. How much more clear can it be?
But here’s the list: Smith and Leo;
I CALL HIM LEO BECAUSE WE ATE AT SPAGO TOGETHER.
Depp and Cruise; Clooney, Damon and Pitt; Downey and Bale; Hanks and Denzel; Stiller and Sandler; Crowe and Bridges; Carell, Rogen, Ferrell and Galifianakis; Wahlberg and Affleck; Gyllenhall (it kills me to put him on here, but there’s just no way to avoid it);
KILLS him. Can’t you see it’s tearing him apart to include Jake on this arbitrary list? He’s so clearly a movie star, unlike that Jamie Foxx.
Justin Timberlake (who became a movie star simply by being so famous that he brainwashed us); and amazingly, Kevin James. All of them can open any movie in their wheelhouse that’s half-decent; if it’s a well-reviewed movie, even better.
So true. Who doesn’t remember the box office slayings perpetrated by Gyllenhaal’s twin bill of “Love & Other Drugs” and “Prince of Persia”?
(NOTE: Just kidding. I’ve been told by Bill that “Love & Other Drugs” and “Prince of Persia” aren’t actually movies.)
Look, I like Jeremy Renner, Josh Brolin, James Franco and Jesse Eisenberg.
Look, I’m not TRYING to be a smarmy asshole here.
I really like Paul Rudd.
Again Paul, if you ever want to meet up with me and Ryan at Soho House, CALL. Or email my AOL account. Hip Hollywooders always use the AOL.
None of them are not movie stars…
Except that they all star in movies.
… at least not yet.
Not movie stars… MAYBE.
And neither is Ryan Reynolds. But you knew that already.
Because Bill Simmons told you so! Don’t you feel enlightened?!
None other than the great William Goldman disagrees with me.
OMIGOD WILLIAM GOLDMAN WILLIAM GOLDMAN WILLIAM GOLDMAN I KNOW WILLIAM GOLDMAN AND HE KNOWS ME AND TOGETHER WE KNOW ALL THE SECRETS OF THE INDUSTRY!
Goldman once wrote that, in Hollywood, nobody knows anything. He was wrong.
BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYTHING.
If you think Pursuit of Happyness or Ali is Will Smith’s defining performance, you would be wrong.
I would? But he was so winning in each!
It’s Six Degrees of Separation.
WHA WHA WHA??!!!!! Are you telling me that Will Smith once gave a lauded performance as a gay con man in an acclaimed independent movie? MIND ASPLODE. I didn’t know that AT ALL. Only a true sports fan would be able to see that kind of moment. It’s like when Larry Bird was playing in his rookie year and GAHHHHH KILL IT WITH A KNIFE.
Everything is on display: his once-in-a-generation charisma, his acting chops, his sense of humor, his sense of the moment … and, most of all, his self-awareness.
Of which you have none.
He made Six Degrees to prove he wasn’t just a rapper-turned-sitcom-star, that he could actually act, that he cared about his craft. You know, as long as he didn’t have to kiss another dude. It was a chance, but a calculated one. He never took another one. Now he’s our one and only movie star, according to William Goldman.
WHO I AM FRIENDS WITH! I RETROACTIVELY CO-WROTE THE PRINCESS BRIDE, WHICH IS A TOTALLY GAY MOVIE IF YOU’RE A SPORTS FAN GRRRRR POWER!
There’s a lesson here.
The lesson? Please eat shit and die.


Ralph Macchio = Movie Star
Billy Zabka = Movie Star
Pat Tanaka = Corpse
That wasn’t that bad for a Simmons piece, and there’s been much worse shit on his super duper vanity project so far
stick to making fun of bad writers like peter king
I nominated you, Drew! Guess you never got that call to sub in for MMQB.
@Ehhh: If this isn’t bad for a Simmons piece, I shudder to see a bad one.
Everything Klosterman has written before is the drizzling shits. Everything he has written on Grantland is somehow worse.
Sorry, but I HATED that piece Simmons wrote. WTF is a movie star supposed to be? Uh, be rich, famous and star in movies right? Right??? I read that column (IE Wasted time while shitting) and came away feeling that Simmons has completely bought into his own bullshit world. He needs to be stopped and frankly I’m pissed that its been so long since he got a good KSK bashing.
Good work Drew but according to Simmons you’re wrong.
“GAHHHHH KILL IT WITH A KNIFE.”
After Naked Gun 33 1/3: The Final Insult, O.J.’s career moves showed he really wasn’t a star.
Am I the only person here who determines whether he wants to see a movie by whether it looks good rather than who the actors are?
I like Simmons, but this was hilarious. “OOH! FOOTNOTES! THE EXTRA INNINGS OF SHITTY WRITING!”
@guest: stick to not commenting on this site
Oh, what a pleasant surprise to see this ridiculous column Kingified. Somebody had to do it.
You know who else is a movie star? You guessed it: Frank Stallone.
I never thought I’d say this, but after reading that Simmons shit I actually miss Peter King.
I will never hate Luke Wilson after he had the balls to not only star in Idiocracy but do great in it. And Maya Rudolph never looked hotter than in that movie.
As a member of the bougeois proletariat for which SImmons writes from above, I have taken the liberty to define the term “movie star.”
Movie Star – N. Recognizable figure who stars in movies.
Facile, I know.
Seriously, I felt really nauseous reading this…he is more self-absorbed like big fat dickheaded sponge than Peter is, isn’t that swell.
Arguing over male movie stars.
That’s pretty goddamn gay.
Maine:
Maybe he mean Owen Wilson. The look, the nasally voice, the constant whining… dude could ruin any movie in any genre in any time period.
Also, idiocracy was fucking awesome. Unfathomable, being as how it didn’t have a MOVIE STAR TO CARRY IT!
If you need a ‘star’ to carry your movie, your movie fucking sucks. Deal with it.
*meant
Wait, Galifianakis is a movie star and Bruce Willis isn’t? To use his logic, are people falling over themselves to see a movie he’s in that doesn’t have the words “hang” and “over” in it?
You know what doesn’t belong in any salad?
Radishes. They are like the oddball Clint Howard appearance in a bad Ron Howard movie. They just show up and they’re not quite that good at what they do, and awful to look at, plus they don’t taste good.
Seriously, radishes and Clint Howard.
I’m with UU.
PK is starting to sound good compared the Asshattery of the G-Land Asshats.
This needed to be done. Good work, Drew.
I don’t know what was worse in this thing Simmons shit out, that list of movie stars (Galifiankis and Timberlake are movie stars, but Willis and Hanks and, I dunno, 40 other guys aren’t?), his weird Wilson bash, his weird Krasinski love, his need for a consensus (there are people out there that don’t like The Godfather, you’re never getting a consensus Bill), or the constant references to average people.
I remember when Bill was an average person. He was better then.
You know who’s not a writing star? Klosterman, that’s who. He makes Simmons and King look like interesting guys.
@TheBigC People absolutely flocked to the theaters to see It’s Kind of a Funny Story! It almost came to actual theaters in decent-sized cities!
I expect Simmons to start dropping Scientology references within the year.
How the hell does Chuck Klosterman make a living as a writer? He and Bill apparently like giving each other back rubs. And Simmons has a very effete voice. Horrible column by Bill but at least it wasn’t about basketball.
You see? That’s the difference between PK and Simmons.
PK is actually worth mocking, because it has something to do with football, and his blalant mistakes are comical.
Simmons is just crap.
Jack Nance will always be a movie star to me.
Simmons isn’t a sportswriter. Know how I know?
Because he doesn’t write about sports.
And because Ryan Seacrest probably thinks this is gay.
So you’re telling me that when Casey Anthony nails her documentary in 2 years she’ll be Chad Henne?
I actually read CK’s first novel, “Downtown Owl,” and it was fucking AWESOME.
Which makes his insufferable Grantland shitting even more perplexing.
You people just don’t understand. In order to fully comprehend what makes a movie star, you have to delve deep within the rotten tomatoes website find out what percentage of assholes approved of each of an actor’s films, and base their acting performance on those numbers. Only then will you know if that person is a true “Leading Man.”
The biggest turd Simmons dropped recently was that column comparing the NBA season to quotes from the Wire. It was 2 parts. There is no correlation between the topics but HOLD ON, let’s get the sportsguy to spray his magical popsporticulture bukkake all over it to make it work. GENIUS.
Awesome. This needs to be a new feature! Please.
Drew you blew a chance to bring out the New Englander in you with Krasinski being from suburban Boston. He too knows the Pats and Sawx ahhhr way bettah than your selected movie stahs. But you didn’t blow a chance to rip a shark jumping blowhard douche like Simmons a new one. Grantland will bomb because people like sports and like movies, but what people don’t like are a little sports and a little bit of Hollywood. Grantland = XFL.
This was like an early Christmas present.
Goddamn I hate Bill Simmons.
Sven: He was probably trying to steal the idea from the late, incredibly great Ralph Wiley, who not only compared the 2002 NBA playoffs to jazz musicians, made it WORK.
[espn.go.com]
Note that Derek Fisher couldn’t guard anyone even in 2002.
Wow only a couple of Simmons defenders so far. I thought they get text message alerts anytime someone on the internet writes something critical of him.
You’re just jealous of The Sports Guy who is a million times better writer than you are and Simmons bashing is so tired and unfunny because EVERYONE is ALWAYS doing it ALL the time. Go back to your mothers’ basements while I listen to this awesome two-hour podcast of nasality about “Lost”
You are jealous of me Drew…haw haw haw.!!!! I get my own website on ESPN and YOU get a stupid little pissant blog where you make fun of REAL writers like me! And Peter King! Do you know how many writing awards Peter King has?????? ALOT OF THEM! Do you have a membership card to the SOHO CLUB???? Nope. Next time you’re staying at the Beverly Hills Hotel, you can be my guest at the Soho Club…which will be never because you can’t AFFORD the BHH! HAW HAW HAW HAW!!!!! You have nothing. Don’t make me publish that email where you are begging me to write for Grantland, because, “I hate all my editors and co-writers at deadspin and ksk, they do not give me enough credit or money.”
Were PK and BS separated at birth?
UR JUST JELLY OF SIMMONS CUZ HE GOT MONEY AND U DONT! FUCKIN HATERZ!
Thank you! I read that thing last week and was blown away at the absolute stupidity of it. I used to love Simmons, but he’s just getting more insufferable. Who gives a flying fuck about what guys qualify as movie stars?
Get money, get money!
BS is PK’s constant companion. Oh, wait, you meant Bill Simmons.
This was awesome. Between Bill and Peter, you could probably spend the rest of your life writing these roasts. And they would continue to be awesome.
‘Not Kissing Anthony Michael Hall’ is a unfunny humor site dedicated solely to tourtured analogies, emotionally mashing unrelated subject together and calling it craft and other shit that makes reasonable humans want to GOUGE THEIR FUCKING EYES OUT!
Fuck Simmons and…
Fucking offseason! Fuck!
Not to be a dick and all, but this article was posted on a sports/pop culture site, not espn. Was it crap, absolutely, but it wasn’t meant to be an exclusive sports site so bashing simmons on the basis that this isn’t a sports article is kind of ridiculous.
also people seem to bitch no matter what, (this article sucked, no question) someone above me posted “at least it wasn’t about basketball” which maes no sense as that is a topic simmons actually knows and has some expertise about.
@sven, the wire quotes article was awesome. I thought it was a creative use of an old gimmick (and simmons is very gimmicky, to be fair, so is bdd) that resulted in an interesting nba playoff column
PK farts on my monitor.
Simmons squirts diarrhea in my eyes.
Great takedown. This column may not be the biggest turd BS has ever dropped, but everything about it – the tortured comparisons, the inane lists, the arbitrary standards (in this case, it’s “movie star,” but also see his “Pantheon” for the NBA) – encapsulates everything that’s wrong with him.
I used to not give a shit as his writing became progressively worse over the years (or maybe it didn’t; maybe his shtick just got stale and his everyman persona faded over time). Now, with his newest project and an ever-increasing platform on ESPN, he’s propped up as the new standard for sportswriting. When, in 10 or 15 years, every fucking sports columnist has to force tedious pop-culture references, strained humor, and a “casual” style that mangles the English language we can all look towards Simmons and thank him for ruining a generation of writers.
Thank you. I generally don’t hate Simmons with the passion that many on the Interwebs seem to and will even occasionally enjoy some of his work. But that movie star column was just absolute horseshit from start to finish. Well done, Mr. Magary.
Jamie Foxx won an Oscar for Ray, but that didn’t make him a movie star;
HE’S JUST A FACKIN’ DAHKIE! JAWNNY DEPP WAS RAWBBED!
@ Justin
you fail. you are a dick.
I love the Wire, probably the best show on television ever made, but it ended four fucking years ago. Kind of like Simmons’s tired schtick.
Waka waka
//dick joke
You can’t deny that I knew the Sports Guy’s article would suck, and it is like Dirk Nowitski coming thru this year in the Finals that Drew made it so I could make fun of it without having to read it.
One good thing to come out of this crap article Simmons posted is the link Drew posted regarding the death of movies. What a great read. Thanks Drew (or should I be thanking Bill?)
the worst thing to ever happen to bill simmons’ writing was the pats winning their first championship. it’s been downhill from there.
Quoth Drew in the Jamboroo:
Will Smith Movies: Hey, he’s Mr. Fourth of July. Surely you remember his work in such stellar 4th of July films as “I, Robot,” “Bad Boys II,” (Not 2. II. It’s a trilogy, you see.) “Men In Black 2,” and… Jesus, those are some bad fucking movies. Such is the power of Will Smith’s charisma. He can get you to see horrible, horrible movies that you forget AS you’re watching them. Know what else? He can also TURN YOU GAY.
YOU AND BILL ARE THE SAME! PRECISELY THE SAME!
While I like the use of TAWMMY to make digs at Simmons, a full-fledged FJM-style takedown is sometimes necessary too. Lofty work, Drew.
And if you can do this a few more times for his NFL picks column this season, I will be in your debt.
Jim from the Office is from Newton MASS WHICH LOOPHOLES MY MOVIE STAR rules for such movies as Leatherheads, Away We Go and It’s Complicated … I went out of my way to see them because of him ..
NO ONE DENIES THIS DEFINITION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Simmons at his worst (this would be a good example of that) is still superior to King on his best day. I’ll take nonsensical and arbitrary rankings of what constitutions a movie star over Peter’s coffee blabbing any day. Well perhaps only 40% of the time. But that’s a legit 40%!
@ Don Bracken – Obviously, you haven’t read Simmons in years. He hasn’t done NFL picks columns since his wife beat his ass three straight years. He only does podcasts and sidebars of picks now in the middle of NBA columns.
He used to be good too….
PK won National Sportswriter of the Year for his weekly diarrhea bursts of incoherency and non-speculative speculations. So far Simmons has money and a web site that ESPN may shut down when they get sick of his ass. I say PK is the bigger felon here.
I have been waiting for FJM style on this prick ever since I read this fucking thing
I’d be ok if you stopped the King bashing and just went after Simmons instead. King, to me, always seemed like that guy who didn’t quite fit in but didn’t realize it but everyone was sorta nice about it. Simmons seems like a frat kid who didn’t grow up and still has it all.
odd, i think all but like 5 of the actors on his list is complete shit. thank god he didn’t include james franco
Mmm, gloppy wet sex history. My favorite kind of history.
You’d assume such a Hollywood insider would know how to spell Jake Gyllenhaal’s name.
Bless you for reading his shit.
Golf clap.
His list of Indisputable Movie Stars is hilarious. Half the people on the list fit his brilliant, ironclad Reynolds Theory criteria (never made a real hit, but people think they’re stars anyway), and the other half are punchlines like Sandler and James or second bananas like Stiller and Galifianakis.
Does anybody else think “Guest” and “Observer” are the same person? That person being Simmons. Dude fucking wakes up at 3AM just to google himself and jack-off to the search results. He’d finger his ass but the iPad needs at least one hand.
Anyway, shut the fuck up! We’re here to make fun of people and laugh, while drinking heavily, to palliate our shitty day at work. Fuck off and stick to yahoo and espn boards. Dick(s).
@FavreFail
I think I realized that Simmons sucked was when i got married and had a kid. And so did he (I’m not saying we’re the same). I have run out of stories to tell that don’t involve bitching about my wife or showing how awesome my kid is. And so for him, all he has to write about is about how he used to be, the Kimmel show, Vegas bullshit, Sawx, other bullshit that most other people realize is boring but he has to keep going with it.
He’s paid to spew it, he has to deliver.
Guys your are stronger than me; I couldn’t even stomach enough of his “writing” to get through Drew’s takedown. Maybe it’s the hangover.
When I saw this on GLand I had to call my boy, I was like “there’s no way this doesn’t end up on KSK”.
He agreed, but said it would take two days, I said a day and a half. Since neither of us was near Vegas we couldn’t legally wager on it (/overly obvious wink //faux subtle figerwiggling bumpfive) but if we could (emphasis sooooo necessary) we totally would have won. Except this other guy was all “we have to parlay” and I was like “no parlay, unless we hit the strip and see two hookers. Then, if we see two more at the sportsbook at the Hard Rock – boom. Parlay”. Too bad we’re not always in Vegas. But then I’d miss my kids. I have kids.
My boy was all like, this is just like that time we read the Campus newspaper and I was like, that kid who wrote this is the guy with the bad haircut. Oh shit, you remember Flock of Seagulls? I remember Flock of Seagulls. Too bad college in the North sucks. If I could do it all over I’d do it exactly the same, but someplace else. And different.
Was this about movies?
@CooperisSuper: Nice, but needs more Karate Kid.
since when do you fjm shit from entertainment weekly?
Of the writers that suitably deserve the Peter King treatment, we underrate Bill Simmons.
Please make skewering Simmons a weekly staple. We need and demand this.
“Too bad college in the North sucks.”
UNLESS YOU WENT TO FACKIN’ HAWLY CRAWSS WHICH SHOULD STILL BE THE GAWDDAMN NOTRE DAME OF WORCESTER MASS LIKE IT WAS IN THE FORTIES I MEAN WE HAD FACKING GORDIE LOCKBAAAAHHHHHM FERGAWDSAKES NO ONE DENIES THIS!!!11!!!1!
could’ve used a few thousand more words and metaphors.
Agree w Lester bangs. Make this happen more often.
Love the takedown today. Read Simmons’ abortion about Hollywood and wondered “What in the fuck is he talking about?” These so-called non stars are pulling down serious coin making blockbuster movies for the studios even if movies are dead like real hip-hop. Gyellenhall a star? FUCK AND YOU. Anyway, Simmons is a freakin tool and it was good to see him taken down a couple of notches. Well done Drew.
“GAHHHHH KILL IT WITH A KNIFE.”
I’ve got a 1 1/4 pound cleaver. Would that suffice?
More, please.
Every. Time.
Yeah, more frequent Simmons takedowns please! Not every article, but the especially bad ones like these. It might be shooting fish in a barrel, but so is MMQB.
If your friend said something to you like, “You know, there are 24 male movie stars, which fits my NBA All-Star analogy even more perfectly…” you’d punch him.
P.S. Is there ANY way to give them feedback on that site? Doesn’t seem like it.
I’d like to just add my support and say fuck Bill Simmons. FUCK YOU FOR EVER MAKING ME CARE ABOUT YOU, YOU HACK! *sobs*
In our Tournament of Douche, Simmons is CLEARLY a 1 seed out West. And might I add, that making love to beautiful women is a pretty darned good thing? Especially when you do it on piles of money.
FBS.
Kevin James? Seriously? Kevin James?
Every time I take a shit from now on, I will refer to it as a Simmons Article. Christ almighty.
Bill Simmons is the Michael Olowokandi of sports writers. Fuck him and his illogical tangent. G’job Dew
Paid by the WWL > Paid by the click.
Bill Simmons has gone from a writer who showed flashes of talent and potential, to a delusional self-parody. Just like The Boz. A MOVIE STAR!
Criteria for being a movie star:
1. If I see your face, do I know who you are?
2. If my girlfriend sees your face, does she know who you are?
3. Have you been parodied on Robot Chicken?
4. Can I describe you to a friend in terms of another appearance? For example: “Oh dude, Conan is Khal Drogo from Game of Thrones and that bro from Stargate.” Or “Nah man that’s the chick from Battlestar Galactica.”
5. Can I name at least two movies (even if they sucked) that you’ve been in?
If an actor meets three of those 5 criteria (or just the Robot Chicken one), he or she is a movie star. Or, you know, fuck Bill Simmons. Whichever you prefer.
Also…
Bill Simmons said the Mavericks were the 10th best team in the playoffs before the playoffs started. So…fuck him, fuck his couch, fuck the plane he flew in on, fuck his yukmouth, fuck his faggot Boston accent, fuck his white skin, fuck his book, fuck his daughter, fuck his daughter again, and fuck his daughter one more time for good measure with a Kobe Bryant® condom.
Of course there can’t be any female movie stars. They just got there because they are good on the couch.
Yes. Let’s TACKLE Tobey Maguire. Don’t you think he’s just like Trent Dilfer?!
Uh, yes, actually. Moderately talented in his field and kind of a prick. You’re good at this game, Drew.
Simmons is the Emilio Estevez of sports writers. or is he the Joey Harrington?
I can usually find something entertaining about a Simmons column, but this really was just him pooping in his own mouth trying to come up with a convouluted sabermetric parody or something. Jesus.
Man, I need a cigarette after reading that. No one is more deserving of a verbal enema than that pretentious little douchenozzle Simmons. PK is just easy pickings at this point – you should stick with Simmons from here on out. Fan-fricking-tastic.
In all seriousness, I actually kind of agree about Ryan Reynolds. And I don’t see why this article even needs to be taken so insanely seriously. It isn’t like it was published in the NY Times. I’m not saying it was the greatest piece ever written, but it’s on a light-hearted sports and pop culture website. It’s basically a blog backed by ESPN.
if you are going to write this kind of article, whether it’s ‘is person x a movie star’, or ‘is golf a real sport’ or ‘is iraq a quagmire’, then the first thing you have to do is define your terms. you have to offer a coherent definition of the category under discussion, otherwise the article turns into a pointless circle-jerk. simmons never bothers, because he’s blinded by his own awesomeness, and only wants to share his unique insights with the great unwashed that are making him rich.
that being said, if you are going to expand the scope of these articles to new targets, can i put in a request for easterbrook? he’s the antichrist, and he is so, so much worse than simmons.
The only really good part of Simmons’ article was the part about Will Smith. Of course, he just lifted the entire thing from People magazine. The rest was pointless and arbitrary.
Also, Simmons takedowns would be a nice feature… if he was able to right consistently enough. He went 2+ years with sporadic columns. Grantland may be a win-win for both his lovers and haters…
Yeah, I don’t always find Simmons as intolerable as some of the internets seem to, but this piece did rub me the wrong way. It’s smug, arbitrary, and the connections are so tortured it hurts. This was perfect filler for PK’s absence.
I’ll second wiggum, however: Simmons occasionally annoys me, Easterbrook consistently makes me want to punch babies–or used to, before I realized that I was not legally required to read his Godawful tripe. I stopped after his first rant of “we shouldn’t fund breakthrough scientific research with government money because it never does anything useful, it’s not like I’m published on a medium that wouldn’t exist in its current state were it not for such research, and also, the LHC is going to destroy us all with a mini black hole because I’m a goddamned ignoramus who doesn’t bother to read actual scientific material, just the insane inflammatory shit.”
My brain is dying.
/dick joke
If reading Simmons annoys you that much why do you keep reading his stuff? Its quite simple.
1.) Read the column.
2.) Decide if you like it.
3.) Either keep reading or stop reading.
I understand if you do not like Simmons writing style, or find his voice to be annoying. What I do not understand is the desire to read his articles and listen to his podcasts simply to complain about them. It sounds like many in the comment section find him to be self-entitled and a douche (which may be fair), but why people have the desire to read what they deem to be trash. There is a reason why I avoid ESPN’s First Take (Skip Bayless), any College Basketball game with Doug Gottleib commentating, Charlie Sheen’s Twitter account, and anything to do with the WNBA. I realized all of the above made me very angry/mad/suicidal/depressed so started avoiding useless crap.
If Simmons writing is crap, take my advice and avoid it (or then you start to sound jealous/convinced that your writing should be what ESPN features and creates a website for).
I really hope that someone passed along thisarticle with an email subject of “Read this, and tell me Simmons isn’t a Douche” I completely support that. Reading someones column just to complain is a waste of time.
MORE FJM STYLE TAKEDOWNS OF SIMMONS PLEASE.
@Kirk Z: If reading this site annoys you so much, why do you keep reading it? Reading someone’s column just to complain is a waste of time.
Simmons hasn’t had a point since the Sawwwwwx won the Series. What bothers me more than the fact that he gets paid for this incomprehensible nonsense, is that there are bars and frat houses full of brahs out there that speak to each other in Simmons-ese. Like those boneheads who used to call into Jim Rome’s radio show and just impersonate him so they could win his admiration. It’s pathetic and sad. But social.
Count me in for more FJM Style with Simmons. The PK ones are the best obviously, but this douche needs it once every two weeks as well.
StuScottBooyahs lets see if you can think. When I said ” It sounds like many in the comment section” I wonder who I was referring to? The people who rip Simmons in the comment section, or Drew?
I’ll give you a few minutes. Or would you like to read my comment, and rip it? Sounds like old hat…
@Kirk Z – The lowest of low-brow humor and vicious hate are what we do here in the wasteland that is the kommentariat. StuScottBooyahs has a long track record of being tremendously funny and can give and take with the best in the hate department. If you have ever commented here before, well I guess it wasn’t memorable enough for me to recall.
Oh, two more questions: Your quarterback sucks ass and fuck you.
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Damn, I didn’t realize that clip was so long, sorry folks.
And I fucked up the line. It should have been ‘Two part question: Your QB sucks ass and go fuck yourself.’ (About 3:35 in the vid)
Damn my sloppy work!
I would suggest Kirk Z figure out what *this* actual column is about and usually entails and then get with the program or GTFO!
Even with you mocking it, I still couldn’t bring myself to read the Bill Simmons column in its entirety.
To all of you asking for more takedowns of Simmons:
1). Do you people know who the fuck Tommy from Quinzee is?
2). PK lends himself more to the FJM style because he can’t write complete sentences. Simmons writes complete sentences that are crap. There is a difference.
The best writer on Grantland by far is Chris Jones. I wonder how long it will be before Simmons gives him editor’s notes to add more pop-culture references.
I’m a writer by vocation and by avocation, which means that I know desperation and writer’s block when I see it. Simmons started showing signs of being spent a few years ago, when his twice-weekly columns became weekly, then sporadic, then essentially replaced by podcasts no one wants to hear about subjects of almost no interest to anyone but him.
The mark of a good columnist is that he’ll make you read about something you didn’t think you cared about and come away enlightened, or at least entertained. Simmons used to have that, and I’ve never seen a minute of Karate Kid or 90210 or any of that other crap TV he cites.
At this point, I’ll go to GL to see if there’s anything interesting, but not for much longer. Too bad; he was enjoyable there for a while.
Oh, and //dick joke.
Hey Balls, Chris Jones is shit because he hides that he doesn’t know what the fuck he’s talking about behind flowery prose instead of doing research
Grantland articles fall into 3 categories:
Hollywood Garbage littered with sports references
Whiney Sports Blog littered with lame pop-culture references
Self indulgent Crap (Poorly researched, obscure (for most USA) sports, filled with over-flowery prose)
I don’t mean to be a sycophant, but until this i’ve always wondered if Grantland would ever have a redeeming feature.
I think we are all missing a real tragedy here: no one has mentioned Wallace Shawn and what a true STAR he is.
Thank you.
Michelle Beadle from ESPN talked about the Simmons article on her podcast and is disgusted with Bill…. Women also see how ridiculous Bill is!
On Bill’s own podcast, Chris Connelly politely told Simmons he was an idiot and didn’t know anything about how Hollywood worked.
This is a shitty response dood. I stopped reading half way through because the article felt like a poorly-satirized slam piece written by a pretentious 10th grader who gets his rocks off by making fun of the popular kids. Congrats Big Daddy Drew, you just made everyone who read this more retarded.
Bill Simmons is a cunt. Anyone who defends/likes BS is a cunt. Trying to defend your fanhood of BS here at KSK against other kommentators, makes you a cunt who likes the strap-on. Old Fat Bald makes a great point.
I thought a friend and I were alone in loathing Simmons’ article. Thanks KSK. Seriously.
“also people seem to bitch no matter what, (this article sucked, no question) someone above me posted “at least it wasn’t about basketball” which maes no sense as that is a topic simmons actually knows and has some expertise about.”
Simmons doesn’t know any more about basketball than he does any other fucking sport. I hate every time there is a Simmons article, somebody always pops in with “Well, he does know his basketball”
No he doesn’t. His articles are all 1) Stupid Theory and 2) Backtracking on Stupid Theory later on by stating that EVERYBODY believed in stupid theory and team/player are defying it. He makes predictions so shitty and then never mentions it again (but he’ll be the first to tell you that he thought Kevin Durant should’ve gone number ONE instead of number TWO….a real daredevil of a pick!…but fails to mention how he touted Adam Morrison who anybody with a functioning eye saw couldn’t shoot over people taller than him)
This is a guy who doesn’t follow college basketball, but somehow thinks he is qualified to judge the NBA draft. This is a person who after one awesome playoffs from Dirk mentioned how we are going to have to reevaluate him on his made-up list when compared to TIM DUNCAN. (By the way, how many revisions to his book has he made in his columns since it has come out? 50? 60?)
I read Simmons for the same reason people read King. Because I hunger for content. But he doesn’t know basketball anymore than King knows football. SO STOP SAYING IT.
“The Bears are one of the four worst teams in the NFL.”
-Bill Simmons, Fall 2010
Turns out that his knowledge of football is about as spot on as his Hollywood insider chops.
This takes time and a patience, but can you FJM any podcast between Simmons and Mike Lombardi. To see them toss around ludicrous ideas and theories while Simmons tries to sound intelligent he is and Lombardi tries to namedrop Bill Belichick every fucking second is by far the most aggravatingly comedic podcast in the BS Report vault (other than the times that Connelly or Klosterman just shits on everything Simmons says). The amount of crap those two get wrong is just jarring.
Ian makes a good point above (way above). King actually seems like a nice guy. A terrible, terrible writer and completely detached from reality. But reasonably nice. Simmons has morphed into a grotesque annoying prick. Drew, go after Simmons every time he writes. Let PK keep muddling along in peace. He’s taken his beating at this point.
Mr. Simmons has his uses. One could amass quite a fortune betting against his football picks. His buddies are funnier and know more about sports than he does. His bashing of Kobe is so ironic, as Simmons’ game is vanishing as well.
His defending the Sox and the Pats against cheating and steroid scandals is the most entertainment the man has left to offer. He has invested his entire life and persona in the tainted success of Boston sports.
A Movie Star is someone who plays the same person in every movie. An Actor is someone who pretends to be someone else in a movie.
Hilarious de-construction Drew.
I wrote something similar to Harris’ piece here:
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This is great. Excited for Postmortal in late August.
Here’s the way I see it. Bill Simmons was a struggling writer who started a website and parlayed that into a job with ESPN and then parlayed that into an even greater success that now includes LA, wealth, and friendships with celebrities. The only downside is he now has to deal with jealous losers like Big Daddy Drew who will never be able to match Simmons’s success because quite simply he isn’t that talented or funny. So he takes shots at him for being a sellout and losing his “from a fan’s perspective” credibility instead of giving him credit for doing what Drew can only dream about.
Wow, so much anger, but what are comment threads for? Anyone who reads Simmons and comes away thinking he’s a prick and misses his constant self-deprecation isn’t really reading him.
I like his writing and I also like anyone who can make a good joke about him… but of the 100+ posts here that are negative there weren’t too many good jokes (especially sad given that there are so many apparent writers here, either by vocation or avocation). At some point someone said they were part of the bourgeouis proletariat… those are usually opposites, but if you were trying to say you’re upper middle class than you have to either use the words “upper middle class” or you have to stop calling others out for being pretentious – you can’t do both.
Cue the flood gates…