
Before we begin today, I’d like to respond to some criticism from last week’s mailbag.
In case you don’t remember, one reader talked about a woman who lost interest in him after he turned her down when she was drunk. Personally, I think it’s foolhardy to turn down sex, but my response — which perhaps lacked perfect clarity — led commenter “stinkdaddy” to say this:
Haha, that second guy was too much of a pussy to commit sexual assault! What a loser! Really Ufford? You don’t know the difference between taking advantage of bad judgement and boning someone who is “incoherently drunk?” Let me help. One is bad judgement, and the other means you just fucking raped someone. It’s subtle, I know.
I guess this is what you end up with when a trained Marine pretends he’s also qualified to dispense relationship advice.
First things first: I have never once said that I’m qualified to dispense advice. In fact, I’ve said the opposite repeatedly, yet people keep writing in with questions. And I don’t see why being a “trained Marine” (redundant for any veteran, by the way) has anything to do with that. At best, it implies that someone who served in the Marine Corps is too stupid or immoral to give relation advice, and at worst it implies that Marines are inclined to rape people. It’s just a shitty, ignorant thing to say.

Anyway, to be clear – because apparently I need to make the most obvious declarations with every piece of advice I give – in no way am I a proponent of sexual assault. The reality is that a lot of people have sex after lowering their inhibitions with alcohol, and to to skip past that reality and twist my words so that you can jump right into screaming “Rape!” is nothing more than trolling. Fuck you. Die in a chemical fire.
There. Much better. Let’s get to your questions.
Caveman,
Football – I am in a keeper league and have been having a real issue with my WR and RB options. For WR it’s either Megatron or Roddy White and for RB it’s Bradshaw or Hillis. Another opinion on this matter is greatly appreciated.
Can you keep Megatron AND Roddy White? Those would be my choices: White and Williams are the second- and third-ranked players at their positions according to NFL.com’s 2011 fantasy ranks. Bradshaw and Hillis, meanwhile, are 17th and 18th. And while I don’t stand by those rankings as hard and fast truths, they do reflect a reality: your WRs are top-tier consistent producers, while your running backs are talented first options who can put up good numbers. If you HAVE to keep one of each, flip a coin. Personally, I’d roll the dice with Roddy and Hillis.
Sex – I was browsing the internet the other day when I came upon a picture of an ex of mine. The picture is of this person giving a hand job with her mouth to someone. It is unmistakably my former girlfriend. This is definitely not a picture I had taken because I like to think my penis is better looking and I am not a prick who posts pictures of their exes. I dated this person for some time until I finally realized that being with someone like her (abusive, insecure) was not worth it. We still send each other the occasional email around holidays and birthdays but that is the extent of the relationship. I guess my question is, should I reach out to her about something like this?
Thanks, Burt
We had a similar question to this sometime in the past, but it’s hard as hell to sift through the archives, so I’ll give this another whirl.
On the surface, it seems like the right thing to do would be to tell her about the picture, because that’s the most honest and open path. But really, what does she gain by you telling her about that picture? What can she do about it? Seek some kind of legal injunction against whichever ex-boyfriend (or fling) took the picture? I doubt it. And even if she gets it removed from whichever site it appears on, it will only pop up on other forums.
And all of that, of course, assumes that the picture was taken for private use only. What if she got paid for that photo and knew it was going to end up online? It’s not a likely scenario, but it’s possible. And that would make your holiday email exchange with her even MORE awkward than the baseline of “I found a picture online of you blowing a guy.”
Let it be. The kindest thing you can do for your ex is not share the photo with anyone.
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Dear KSK,
Fantasy: I’m in a keeper league where we keep 6 players.
Holy shit, that’s got to be the most boring draft in all of fantasy football. “And with the first pick of the draft, I select Owen Daniels.”
We usually have to submit our keepers the Monday after the NFL draft. Is it reasonable to ask the commissioner to put off naming our keepers until we know for sure that there will be a season? I’m just not confident that all of my players will be in the same exact situations a year from now as they are now.
I think that makes perfect sense, and I don’t see why any commissioner wouldn’t be flexible in making changes to accommodate the lockout. You’d have to be a giant asshole to be all, “No! You’re locked into your keepers now! Even if there’s no 2011 season!”
Sex: This is unfortunately a sad and serious topic. Pretty much every girlfriend and any other female friend I have had over the years has at some point told me that they were molested at a young age. I’ve heard stories of fathers, uncles, babysitters, religious figures, and family friends molesting them. I just recently had a girl completely break down to me and tell me how a good friend of the family molested her when she was 7 and then her mother beat her for lying when she told her about it.

I guess my question is: do you have similar experience of your girlfriends/friends telling you similar stories or do I just happen to know a skewed sample of girls? Furthermore, are we just that fucked up of a society where a girl can’t make it to the age of 10 without someone molesting her?
– Lil’ Wayne Chrebet
Does it happen to a lot of girls? Yes, absolutely. Does it happen to every girl? Certainly not. It’s possible that women who were molested are just drawn to you, or maybe you live in West Virginia. As always when I don’t have a good answer, I look to Wikipedia for answers:
In North America, for example, approximately 15% to 25% of women and 5% to 15% of men were sexually abused when they were children. Most sexual abuse offenders are acquainted with their victims; approximately 30% are relatives of the child, most often brothers, fathers, uncles or cousins; around 60% are other acquaintances such as ‘friends’ of the family, babysitters, or neighbors; strangers are the offenders in approximately 10% of child sexual abuse cases.
So… yeah. Cheerful subject. How ’bout them Knicks?
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Dear Colossus of Cunt,
That… that’s really not a very good nickname.
I do not really wish to file this topic under “sex” for forthcoming apparent reasons:
So, a few weeks ago I was at my gym and a guy asked me about something workout related, and I chatted with him for a bit. From time to time in the next few weeks I see him around at bars, and he will buy drinks for my friends and me without fail, even though I try to refuse. It turns out some one of my female friends knows him from around town as he is somewhat of a local fixture, and she tells me that he is a super nice guy and is often buying drinks for people. She also informs me that he is gay. I am straight, and I have no problem with gay people even though I’m from a part of the country that does not tend to embrace homosexuality.
So, the Midwest, the South, or Utah. Got it.
So I talk with him a little bit, and end up giving him my number after telling him that I was looking for a job, and he offered to call me if he heard of anything.
This is when things start getting weird. For the last two weeks he has started texting me almost daily asking how my day is going and what’s up. He also sent me some late night texts telling me how much he wishes I were with him on a business trip he was on, and that he wants to spend lots of money on me. He later sent me an “oops I see I sent some drunk texts the other night ;)” text, and I’m not sure whether that is more or less unsettling. After some very curt text messages back to him, he tells me that he knows I’m straight and that I need to stop being so homophobic. If I don’t text him back promptly, he’ll ask if he’s offended me. Let me add that this man is in his late 50′s. Now, I’m sure half of your commenters will tell me I’m a huge pussy and this is all my fault for not telling him to step the fuck off, and the other half may call me a homophobic, unworldly heathen for being uncomfortable interacting with a gay man, he’s also black and I’m white if you want to add “racist” in there.
Anyway, the guy seems like a nice dude who is generally well-liked around town, and I’m sure I will run into him again in the future, but I straight up do not like getting creepy text messages all the time. Today, he suggested that we should get dinner sometime. Also, he frequently calls me “stud.” So I have a few questions to throw out into the universe:
1. I have always assumed that gay people would know not to try to force a 22 year old clearly straight men into their gay world. Should he not expect me to be skittish about even speaking with him at this point? Does he not have the social responsibility to reign that shit in a little? Plus he’s like 30 years older than I am. I’m kind of irritated with the gay community that one of their members has put me into this situation.
2. This needs to stop, so how the fuck should I handle this?
First of all, you’re WAY off base about expecting gay men to respect your straightness. You know how women play hard to get, and we chase them because we’re idiots? Well, straight men are the ULTIMATE hard-to-get for gay men. And keep in mind, they might like musicals and have excellent taste in interior design, but they’re still men. Which means they think with their dicks just as much as we do — maybe even more so, since they get to target other men and don’t have to worry about offending feminine sensibilities as much.
Is he a creep? Yes, absolutely. But you need to stand up for yourself and handle him the way a woman would handle a gross older stalker. It’s a 3-step process: 1. Clearly state that you don’t want him to contact you any more. 2. Ignore his texts/calls. 3. If he persists, get yourself a restraining order. Who gives a fuck if he’s well-liked? He’s an asshole.
Post script: You’re irritated with the gay community because of one gay man, huh? That’s like being irritated with Italian-Americans for “Jersey Shore,” or being irritated with black people because of Tyler Perry, or being irritated with women because of Kate Gosselin. It’s preposterously reductive.
Football: The Colts
DING DING DING! Sorry Utah, the winner is “Midwest.”
are saying they are thinking of drafting a QB fairly high in the draft. Does that not seem like the most wasteful pick of any team possible at this point. Though I loathe that pale-faced choke artist, Peyton has never been hurt and by all indications has at least 5 years left in my humble opinion. So two colts QB’s…. what does it mean?
-Likin’ the ladies more than ever
Maybe, maybe not. Maybe they’re thinking of grooming a young QB with more talent than Jim Sorgi or Curtis Painter — maybe as a long-term replacement for Manning, maybe as insurance for Manning’s aging body (that they could deal for more picks like the Pats did with Matt Cassel). Who’s to say, really? The Colts have made pretty excellent personnel decisions over the last decade, so I’d give them the benefit of the doubt for now.
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Hi Captain,
Sex: No problem there. I get as much as you would expect after 10 years of marriage and 2 kids which is not as much as I would like but enough to keep me happy.
*yawn* Good story.
Football: My exposure to the NFL started in the late 80s when one of the TV channels down here in Oz started to show a game of the week around midnight on a Friday night.
I think it’s really cool that people call Australia “Oz” for short. And yet, every time I see it in writing, I’m like, “Holy shit you’re from OZ?!?!? But that place isn’t real!” It comes from a childhood of seeing The Wizard of Oz and The Wiz. I can’t even imagine what it’s like for people whose frame of reference is the HBO series “Oz.”
One game a week was all we got. The games seemed to always feature either the 49ers or Oilers. I then became a fan of the Oilers. A few years later the broadcasts stopped. Then around 1998 they started again. By this time the Oilers no longer existed and I decided to pick a new team. We had an American at my work place who I asked about the current league. He steered me in the direction of a team which had a history similar to the Australian Rule Football team I support, mediocre with the occasional good season. So I became a fan of the Patriots. Since the explosion of the internet and my exposure to NFL based blogs I have come to realize that the team I follow has a supporter base that I under no circumstances would normally associate with. The question is am I able to renounce my fandom of the team and just follow the NFL as a whole or am I stuck being one of them?
-Concerned.
Just about every enlightened sports fan has a byzantine set of rules for what teams you can and can’t root for, and who’s a real fan versus who’s a poseur, and when it’s okay to wear a jersey of your team, et cetera ad nauseam. But I think when you’re an international fan who’s never had the chance to pick a team based on watching the games with native fans, none of your allegiances need be set in stone. For now, just watch the games and root for which players are on your fantasy team, or whichever team is more fun to watch, or whichever team has Rex Ryan on the sidelines.
I’ll try to watch a little EPL every now and again, and I say that my team is Fulham because they’ve been home to American players like Brian McBride, Carlos Bocanegra, and Clint Dempsey (my favorite player). But when it comes down to it, I’ve never lived in London, never been to Craven Cottage, and have only ever met one Brit whose favorite team was Fulham. (Everyone in London seems to cheer for Chelsea or Arsenal, with a sprinkling of Spurs and West Ham supporters. Fulham seemed a distance fifth in terms of fan bases.) My point is: it’s hard to truly connect to a team unless you feel like you’re part of the fan community. If you don’t feel like a part of FACKIN FOOTBALL RED SOX NATION, well, feel free to take your loyalties elsewhere.
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Dearest Caveman,
Longtime reader of the mailbag. I’ve finally been motivated to write in after struggling with a lady-related issue. First off the Fantasy question: after getting some serious mileage out of the ‘Kurt N Kitna’ moniker over the past couple of seasons, I feel it has grown stale. While there is no hooker-killing duo quite like them, I was wondering if you had any suggestions for team names that might strike fear in the hearts of my opponents. (PussyTubers has been taken…)
Worry not, dear reader. Every summer, Big Daddy Drew compiles a giant list of KSK-approved fantasy team names. Wait until July, then come back to KSK every hour until we post. Until then you can peruse the previous years: 2010, 2009, 2008, and 2007. It’s fun to revisit what was relevant in previous years. Remember Fred Smoot and his double-ended dildo? Ah, how I miss the sex boat scandal.
SEX (sorry this will be long): After years of sleeping around in a drunken and drug induced haze with anything that moved, I met a girl through my program at school. She was fit, good looking, funny, good in bed, smart, easy to talk to, similar interests and priorities to mine, supportive of me and very caring/loving. Things progressed quickly needless to say, and I felt that for the first time in my life (of 27 years) I actually, legitimately, was in love with someone and could see myself with them in a long term relationship, (the longest, continuous relationship I had been in before might’ve been 5 months? So this was a huge step for me to even think about.)
But…?
However here is the let-down: in recent years I had been struggling with a number of serious problems, some of which I had ignored, some of which I had tried (and failed) to get help with. A few weeks before I met her, I was undergoing a psychiatric evaluation for really bad obsessive compulsive disorder, which I put on the back burner once the relationship progressed. Needless to say, that backfired. She wasn’t an idiot and could see that my brain worked differently than other people’s. Along with the OCD came a number of rage and anger issues, anxiety and depression.
Furthermore, I had always fancied myself as (or took pride in) being an smart-ass/asshole/tough guy who didn’t have much of a filter, so I would do and say things to her that were borderline stupid, or lies or just idiotic. These were things I could hide at times, but not forever, and she accepted them for a while, and probably could have lived with them if it weren’t for the final personality strike which was my chemical dependency.
When sober, I can usually be a stand-up individual (which is what attracted her to me in the first place I suppose). When drunk (and these things would occur long before she was in the picture), I would become a tazmanian devil, drinking to the point of blacking out, getting behind the wheel, stealing things, getting into very aggressive fist fights taking any pill I could get my hands on, calling old hookups, ending up in flop houses or brothels or after hours parties with shady characters, and so on. After a night of ‘bad things’, I called her for a ride home. When she arrived she witnessed me and my roommate in the aftermath of a brawl against 3 or 4 guys and a couple of girls, in cuffs on a city sidewalk. (Don’t ask me how I was able to weasel my way out of the charges, but we got off, thank god, as my future profession prevents me from having any type of criminal record…). She gave me a couple of weeks benefit, and then high tailed it out of my life (which I do not blame her for doing…).
Needless to say, my life went into a bit of a tailspin and I thankfully hit rock bottom without doing too much more damage to myself or others. Currently I am undergoing treatment for the OCD, which has progressed really well. I stopped drinking cold turkey, and began to get help from professionals in regards to my other mental issues. Months have passed, and without going into too much detail, I am doing a lot better now.
That’s lovely to hear.
As for her, she started dating some hipster d-bag from our school program (which absolutely floored me…),
Really? And do you think for even half a second that some “hipster d-bag” is worse than the reckless, dangerous, drug-abusing, drunk-driving, whoring guy she dated before? Reality check, buddy.
but they decided recently to go their separate ways. I guess my question is… what do I do to get her back in my life?
…Invent a time machine?

(I know from the description above, that this might be border line impossible, but from what she had told me at the time of break-up, and in the aftermath, I am pretty convinced that the possibility still exists.) We haven’t had much contact lately as I obviously needed to focus on myself, until the other day I sent her an e-mail saying hi and asking how she was doing. Her response was luke-warm at best, so where do I go from here oh wise one? I actually would be perfectly fine with just being her friend, and having her in my life as such, but I really do not know how to go about it. I await your guidance.
Sincerely, Admiral Heavy
Generally speaking, I think the human race would be a lot happier if more individuals would be happier to let go of people in their lives. Obviously, my opinion in this regard is colored by the life experience of growing up in the military and moving every three years — I’ve grown to enjoy fresh starts where I leave everything behind, and only stay in touch with the people who truly matter to me. And so, on the few occasions where I’ve treated a girlfriend poorly — not quite as bad as you, but still worse than any decent person deserves — I’ve always wanted to move my life away from her (maybe not by moving away, but always moving on). Seeing the ex-girlfriend just reminds me of how shitty a person I was, and I’d rather focus my life on moving forward. I’d rather build something new than try to fix up the rubble.
Now, second chances are great. I don’t discount the fact that you loved this girl, and I’m sure you’re confident you can get it right this time if she just gives you the opportunity to show her. Maybe, maybe not. Maybe she takes you back but won’t let you get close to her because she can’t force herself to trust you, and then you spend the second iteration of your relationship apologizing for things that you’ve gotten treatment for and are trying to move past — not exactly the best thing for either of you. Or hey, maybe she takes you back and it’s awesome — but I’ve never known anyone who’s enjoyed that route.
My suggestion to you is to you is a heartfelt email to the ex. Let her know how special she is, and everything you loved about her — and also how sorry you are that you dragged her down with your problems. Let her know that the regret you feel about losing her has helped you get your life back on track, and that whatever capacity she’ll allow you in her life, you’ll gratefully accept even though you don’t deserve it. That sort of honesty allows you to express your feelings, but it also gives her an out — it relieves her of the burden of having you in her life. After saying your piece, you can move on. I’d recommend taking the regret and sorrow and love for your ex-girlfriend, and applying those feelings to building a new relationship with someone else.
(Note: the first two images used in this article came from the delightful tumblr glass case of emotion.)


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The “rape” commenter was an easy target, because of his Marines dig, but that allowed you to sidestep the issue. You were able to attack him for his prejudice, say you don’t condone rape, and then reiterate that a man should never turn down sex – presumably even if the girl is “incoherently drunk”, as the original letter writer specifically explained. Instead, you should have responded to this commenter:
“You say “incoherently drunk,” I say “lacked the capacity to consent to sex.”
Bad enough when I say it, but if she says it the next morning, or whenever she gets buyer’s remorse, then you are well and truly f*ked”
Sorry, but it’s not exactly obvious that you or the commenters grasp the difference between lowered inhibitions and legal rape – and it sounds like you think the best course of action is to roll the dice. It seems like you and the other commenters are content bashing the straw man, and saying, “If you disagree with Uff then you don’t support the troops!” (See what I did there?) And, @Bubba, the legally operative fact is not whether you found her drunk on the couch or you got drunk with her – what matters is what her state of mind was when she “consented” to the sex. (Of course, there is a problem of proof if you went out to the bar with her, drank together, etc., but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t rape – that’s called “date rape”).
And @Justin: I understand the writer doesn’t have a lot of experience with gay people. That does not excuse his ignorance. Here’s a tip for everyone: whenever you meet someone new of a different race, sexual orientation, sexual identity, religion, or any other subsection of society, try to just treat him or her like a human being, and not a label. There’s no reason a gay dude into you would act differently than you would toward a girl you’re into. (Kudos on that one Uff). So, as long as you treat someone like a human being, rather than some generalization of the group they’re in, you will be OK more often than not, and any problems will likely be the other person’s, and not yours.
/peace offering: http://being-beckeroni.tumblr.com/post/4138446325
//Pretend I’m anti-Semitic, to set up another straw.
Yes, I prefer single malt. I *really* hope that is the guy they pick. John Fox seems like the type that would go for d-line (area of most need, especially switching back to 4-3), but Xanders is still the GM and we’ve seen what he’s done.
That is a mockery draft I can get on board with. If we can work some scotch in somewhere around the time # 2 is announced. (dareusdareusdareusdareusdareus……)
The joke around the football friends is “What running back do you think they will take?” Heeheee, ha, snicker, clears thoat, then “Shit, what if they really do take one?”
Denver sport media sucks, I’m sure it is the only sports town with that irritating condition. Just listening to the Kommen-tators we know that other locations and the national sports media are loved by one and all.
My personal draft board has me downing three Guinness by the time the second pick is on the clock.
*”Tebow/Orton/but still looking at QBs in the draft ARTICLE”*
/realizes this correction does not improve upon the rambling running on-ness of his “contribution”
//swears he is usually much more coherent in his writing
///dick joke
////BIG one
/////texts mild come-on to RoyalAnteater
@Moose: What?!?! You mean you think Klis and Legwold and Woody and all the other DP geniuses are wrong? Because those Jr. PKs in training seem to think that, since # 7 is now in the front office, the team will be running the first starting units comprised of 22 QBs. Seriously, after every Tebow/Orton/but still looking at QBs in the draft, I’m convinced the blue and orange are going to find a way to put Tebow, Orton, Quinn, Newton, Gabbert, Locker, and Mallet all on the field at the same time.
I know this sentence is incoherent, but I’ve spent all day reading lockout news and 4578 mock drafts. One had Fairley going to the Jets at 30! I wish the fucking draft would just get here and be done already…..
cheaptoy; also “it goes without saying”, it is like saying “Most of you know this already since it is so obvious, but there is one stupid guy I need to write this in here for.”
In terms of the Colts drafting a QB: all teams call in QBs for the interviews, etc. whether just doing due diligence and knowing what is available and what other teams are getting or putting up smoke screens for draft day. For instance the Broncos having a defense that would have trouble keeping the state HS champs out of the endzone have interviewed most of the big name QBs this year and as usual the press goes “Derp!! We might get a new QB!”
Auuuggghh. Why do 95% of these emails have to use “needless to say” constantly? If its needless to say, don’t fucking say it.
@ MCM;
Of course all Jet fans are not “drunkin wife beating filthy animals”, many are not married.
I suppose I should stand up for the “gay guy who hits on guys who say they’re straight but don’t necessarily turn down advances” crowd. I’ve had a number of guys that I’ve hung out with and that would swear they’re straight as an arrow that when drunk were perfectly willing to “experiment” or whatever they want to call it to make themselves feel better. Certainly not trying to be a predator or anything but you’d be surprised what young drunk horny guys are up for. OK, that sounds pretty creepy, and I’m still in my 20s myself.
The point being that that’s what this guy probably thinks about you. Given that he seems to be pressing it pretty hard (which is pretty inappropriate imo), if you’re honestly not the least bit interested, just tell him to fuck off, stop answering his texts, find a different gym, etc. It’s not that hard. Your actions are making him think you are perhaps interested.
0tarin is just MEAN; that guy and his “English”! It is like my uncle after a two fifths of Old Crow, only instead of fists his uses polite words.
/really has to cut back on the Mentos.
P.S. I thought you would have ripped me up for my “P.S. Slash is totally hitting on me.” sentence.
Anteater; well said; I am being a real Bill Shakespeare now that I read that back, Peter King would be proud. But you know what I meant, right? I can accuse you of writing poorly since I am so well aquainted with it.
Having said that, I think the Kommentators were just giving you some shit justifiably and you seemed to really get on your high horse about it. Maybe I am wrong and they were all being serious (OK, some were), but I believe most mean well, but must get a snarky comment in. It sounded more like some rib poking than “People picking out one ill-advised sentence in the story and turning it around on me.”
Granted, I did not dissect that sentence so much as repeat it, but you get it right?
/dick joke (see! I am familiar with the comments section here)
@moose: I don’t really think I was the overly* sensitive one in this case. I tried to be as concise as possible while still providing necessary details, and I felt as though the kommentariat could help me out here. People picking out one ill-advised sentence in the story and turning it around on me, and my defending myself is hardly sensitivity. As for criticizing my writing, let’s dissect what you wrote: “I seem to attract the molested and/ or raped, broken inside, woman too and after dating several for various lengths of time I still don’t know what to do except listen and go out of your way to be there for them since that issue or issues caused by that experience will always crop up.” What the hell was that? Try to make sense when you’re writing, especially if you’re going to accuse others of writing poorly.
dry handjobs aren’t that bad if you’re uncircumcised
The rapey guy had a good point (it IS the internet, in my business we CYA), but he was an asshole about it and should make a FORMAL apology to the Marines (and some of the Navy guys that give them rides on ships) and clean all the latrines, yeah, ALL the latrines with a toothbrush. That being said, I would very seldom score if the nectar of settling was not involved somehow.
I seem to attract the molested and/ or raped, broken inside, woman too and after dating several for various lengths of time I still don’t know what to do except listen and go out of your way to be there for them since that issue or issues caused by that experience will always crop up. Some guys are really fucking assholes, we complain about people like Tony Romo or Peter King here all the time, which is fine and fun, but these guys are the ultimate assholes.
Old black guy queer; how MUCH is he willing to spend? A spankin’ new 60″ Sony LED? The butt soreness will go away in time, dude. I bet you were dressing extra sexy at the gym weren’t ya? Methinks you doth protest too much Anteater. Maybe you should have been clearer in your email. By reading the mailbag a lot, as you say, you seem to be a bit (over) sensitive about people giving you some shit, when your poor writing opened you up to such grief.
I agree with CC on the confession/ apology, in fact I feel you owe it to her, you were a dick to her and used your problems to justify it, now say you are fucking sorry. Yeah, and THANK her for being in your life and putting up with your shit.
0tarin; thank you for the correction, may I rot in hell for miss-using that word before.
Farvefail; have you considered writing some kind of handbook? Let me rephrase, a guide. Concise, well written, numbered in sequential order; that is some good shit right there.
P.S. Slash is totally hitting on me.
>>>And without the black community support Obama would still be a community organizer.
You CAN absolutely be a little annoyed with the black community because of Tyler Perry. He produces mass entertainment at an astonishing rate, and I’m pretty sure most of his revenue comes from African-American consumption of his product. Without their support, there wouldn’t be 3 films featuring Tyler Perry in a dress coming out every year.
I think it’s perfectly acceptable to be irritated with all women because of Kate Gosselin. She’s a horrible, horrible cunt. Although on the chart of reasons to be irritated with women, I’d say that’s pretty low on the totem pole. Now women that WATCH whatever show she’s doing now? Strangulation with razor wire followed by a nice glass of scotch is not without it’s merits.
And to our Austrailian ‘bagger (tea, mail, whatever) – you could, in theory, root for the Titans, as they WERE the Oilers – but fuck that. Bud Adams needs to die in a fire. Or rather, be horribly burned, but linger on to experience the pain that only exposed nerve endings can cause.
I would humbly (homerishly) suggest rooting for the Texans. We like our beer. We have weird animals (armadillos, horned frogs, feral hogs, etc.) roaming our vast state, many dangerous, some deadly. Many people can’t understand what the fuck we’re talking about even though we speak English, and, like Austrailia, we have names for things that even someone speaking English won’t understand. Some of the defenders of the Alamo, and fighters for Texas independence had some sort of criminal issue they were running from at the time. The similarities between Texas and Austrailia are uncanny.
Plus, since the Texans have sucked since their inception, you could get in on the ground floor and say that you’ve always been there when they finally sniff the playoffs after Fetushead retires. Since no one cares about the Texans (I believe that’s even a KSK tag!), you don’t have to worry about some asshole in a Cowboys/Packers/Steelers/Patriots jersey hassling you when you walk into a bar. Most other fanbases, upon realizing you’re a Texans fan, look upon you with a mixture of pity and apathy, and its usually good for a consolation beer when you inevitably get drubbed by the Raiders in a game you were supposed to win.
That is all.
Slash/Werewolf-
is it true that when you say no, you really mean yes?
/spoken in my best Benny Hill voice
OK- let’s set the record straight. Having sex with an incoherent drunk you just found on a couch at a party = rape.
Having sex with an incoherent drunk who was sober when you took her out that night, was flirty while drinking, and generally into = college for most of us.
To the dude from Indy or where ever, stalkers are trouble. Period. The fact that you’ve been this nice this long proves that you aren’t homophobic. Stop worrying, and tell they guy to get lost.
Speaking of gay …
http://www.wtkr.com/news/nationworld/ktla-video-marines-britney-spears-spoof,0,2689869.htmlstory
Don’t know how to feel about this. OTOH, it’s Marines being amusing. OTOH, it’s Marines dancing and lip-syncing to a Britney song …
Discuss.
Point taken Slash. It’s hard out there: gay, straight, male, female.
@Guy from Oz, Sav Rocca and Ben Graham are from Australia so why not root for the Eagles or Cardinals. However, they are both punters so there is that.
@RoyalAnteater, I thought everyone knew over friendly older guys at the gym are almost always gay.
Aussie guy,
Let me get this straight, you watched football in the glory years of the 80′s, Joe Montana and Jerry Rice OBLITERATING other teams and you decided to root for the Oilers?!?!?
In the immortal words of Keshawn Johnson, “C’MON MAN!”
To Aussie NFL fan.
The Patriots are the equivilent of Collingwood so change teams immediately or be thought of neandethal douchebag. Oh if you’re already a magpies supporter, continue to “root” for New England. You’ll fit right in.
Re: the “handjob with her mouth” dilemma… I just read it as the guy trying to find a cheeky way to describe a blowjob without coming right out and saying. Why? That, I do not know.
For a pop culture parallel, see the first Ashley Schaeffer episode of “Eastbound and Down” when Ashley tells Kenny that his salesman will “finger you with his penis.”
What is it with this generation of morons and their ‘they won’t stop texting me’ stories? Are teens and 20 somethings today really too stupid to understand how to use a delete key or block a #?
And what kind of a fucking idiot gives their phone # to a gay guy — at the gym — and is then surprised when the guy starts hitting on him. Good grief!
Homo? Hetero? Who gives a shit, we’re all fucking terrible.
I hate the “I don’t have a filter” guy.
You’re just an asshole that chooses to let others know about it.
@Anteater/Liking the Ladies/Whatever. . .
Poor choice accepting the drinks, allowing the text messages, etc. You have to nip that in the bud. Too many gay men have a fantasy about “converting” – not really conversion, but no word works – some straight guy (not all, but some), and you unwittingly let that seed start to grow in his mind. He is totally a creep and should fucking know better (this “well-liked around town” bullshit notwithstanding), but you have to be direct.
You’re not being homophobic by explaining that you’re uncomfortable being hit on so obviously by him – but at the same time you can’t have the cake and eat it by continuing with the drinks, etc.
Fuck morons like that dude for making gay men look bad. What a bastard. Of course, the alternative is a sports/military driven repression that keeps you from sexualizing any straight man ever (good), but lands saddles you with more mental health issues than the celeb wing at Betty Ford. . .
Holy shit, I would love to see Drew’s reaction to the inevitable fetus-to-vikings trade. If only Chilly were still in charge…
Did we get a definitive answer on the “handjob with her mouth” question? That is cleary the most important issue raised in this mailbag.
It is amusing to hear about straight dudes being stalked (kinda) by gay dudes. See, it really is uncomfortable, isn’t it, when someone won’t take a polite “no thanks” for an answer. And it’s fucking maddening to be told you led someone on by trying to be nice and let them down easy. This is reason #3,005 why we can’t have nice things.
For the record, Manning is the next Favre. The Colts will draft a QB who they hope to groom for the future, and Manning will keep waffling because he’s just the greatest ever, And then it’ll get scary because this backup looked good in preseason, learned a ton from a future Hall of Famer, and his rookie contract is almost up. The Colts will need to shit or get off the pot, but Manning will keep reminding them that he built the fucking bathroom.
@0tarin – Glad to see us Ravens fans are slowly dispersing across the country, like a puddle of bleach at the feet of Sizzle’s new gf.
@RoyalAnteater – I feel you on this one man. I used to bartend in DC near gay-friendly Dupont and I had two separate gay patrons who I had similar situations with. They were nice and we’d talk when they came to see me and they tipped very well, but they still found ways to contact me outside of the bar. One Facebook stalked me and started FB chatting me asking me to hang out. That didn’t stop until he moved (to SF ironically, or maybe not). The other was awesome, as he brought me beautiful women almost on a weekly basis. I ended up hooking up with a few of them, and he got my FB and phone number from them. Then he started texting, calling and FB chatting me all the time. I responded to him for awhile because of all the girls that we both knew and I didn’t want them to think I was being an asshole, but I never agreed to hang out with him outside of the bar. He started doing things like telling me he was depressed and really needed to talk to someone to try to guilt me into hanging out with him. I just told him I couldn’t but we could talk about it on the phone, and always changed the subject or told him I wasn’t interested if he brought anything suggestive up.
Obviously, in line with Caveman and Favre, just be nice if you run into him in public and don’t respond to any texts/calls/emails. Telling him you’re straight won’t work. I wasn’t quite sure how to handle it at the beginning and just kept talking about how hot this girl or that one was and how much I wanted to bang them to try to not-so-subtly get the message across. It didn’t work. You just have to keep saying no and never leave any response open to interpretation, but without being an asshole. And obviously never agree to see him outside of chance encounters at the bars. He’ll stop eventually, but it will probably take longer than you’d like.
@Forte Knox
And by “by himself”, you mean “with Dominic Rhodes and non-gimpy Bob Sanders supporting the dead weight of his massive, fetus-like head”, right?
The Colts are looking for their Aaron Rodgers, so they can trade Pey Pey to the Vikings in about 5 years.
@Royal Anteater
If you want to be left alone by that guy, just stop wearing that turtleneck. It makes you look gay.
Also, in the gym locker room, did your penises touch? Because that’s pretty gay too.
/Misses Archer already.
“Fuck you. Die in a chemical fire”
Jim Norton approves this commnet
Anteater – stop wearing the metallic rainbow short-shorts at the gym. This should cut down on the stalking.
Nice take-down Ufford!
@tebowtie – there’s only room for one hilarious tim-based handle.
The rest of you – any chance we can fucking relax?
That is all.
Thanks for your time.
/returns to purely hetero enjoyment of a Will and Grace rerun
Oh and Royal Anteater? Don’t feed or encourage Monkey Business. Next thing you know it will move in and leave a litter of kittens in the back seat of your Volvo.
@ L’il Wayne: As an old guy who has dated a lot of women, I have dated two who had an abusive childhood. They both carried it with them pretty heavily. I can’t say how many there are out there but those who have been through something that dramatic tend to leave an impression on you.
Both of them talked about it a lot. Odd at first but you get the sense that it is somehow therapeutic to them.
I don’t envy you.
Good luck.
@Justin: Thanks man that’s why I was getting kind of frustrated because I feel as though my attempt at open-mindedness and proper decorum (though I thought the rules may be a little more lax here since it’s a humor site that commonly throws around the term “gay mafia”) were met with straight vitriol.
@TimTebowsbowtie: The raging’est fear boner you can imagine.
@monkeybusiness: My thoughts exactly. Picking a QB doesn’t make sense unless something is up. Gotta think they’ll figure it out with manning and draft a left tackle.
@Concerned, if you truly believe that all Patriots fans are some version of Tommy, you sir are a moron. It’s just a huge portion. I used to think all Jets fans where drunkin wife beating filthy animals until one gave me a pair of boot warmers at a Jets home game, in New Jersey, at Giants stadium.
@joe:
Agreed; I suppose I’m evidence that not all Ravens fans are local. I remark upon the bay area during the rivebrogs enough that I assumed it was common knowledge, to be honest!
Also, who had 6 hours in the “time until MB chimes in on peypey” pool?
@Likin’ the ladies: Like you said, Manning has about 5 years left in the tank. Using a high pick on a QB would be counterproductive, as they’re built to win now. Not only that, but even if the Colts take a QB high, he’s going to be riding the bench until Manning calls it quits. Given his legendary durability and ability to avoid hits, it’s likely that Manning could still have something left in the tank by the time this kid’s rookie contract is up. If he’s even remotely decent, someone will offer him a starting job in free agency, and the Colts can’t pay two franchise QBs at once.
Let’s say, as a hypothetical, Andy Dalton (the only QB I’ve heard the Colts work out) falls to them at 22, and right there is Derrek Sherrod, Gabe Carimi, Anthony Costanzo, or Nate Solder, i.e. a top flight left tackle. If Polian picks a QB over an LT, it tells me two things: 1) Manning’s contract negotiations are going very badly, and 2) there’s an extreme likelyhood that Manning won’t be wearing the Horseshoe sometime in the next five years.
Long story short, this is the highest the Colts have drafted in almost a decade. It’s their opportunity to get the Left Tackle that will stabilize the offensive line and/or a Defensive Tackle that will finally plug the hole in the middle. Also options: cornerback and safety.
To sum up: it’s a smokescreen, and if it’s not the Colts are ten kinds of fucked.
Tell the crazy dude I said tl;dr. Wit his fucked up life.
I kinda thought you were from B’more. But the 13 gays here are still in the closet. And if you only have 1 black friend in B’more, you must work in your, or your parents’ basement. Amirite?
@joe:
In retrospect, my location is depressingly easy to deduce…
Wow, I totally should not have made my fear boner joke before reading the rest of the back and forth. Ah, fuck it, I still think it’s an awesome joke. I mean, you hit the trifecta. Old, black, gay…..FEAR BONER! And in the interests of full disclosure, I actually laughed at your joke about being irritated at the whole gay community. Seemed pretty jokey to me. Isn’t heavy sarcasm pretty rampant around here?
Either way, mad props (or whatever the kids are saying these days) to all of you for being friends again. Hugs for everyone! Gay and straight!
Otarin- Not that I’m counting, but you have only 1 black friend, and 13 gay friends? Do you live in “Frisco?
///kicking myself for not making an Isaac Hayes/Chef comment
Making broad generalizations about a profession = bad
Making broad generalizations about a state = good
/not from West Virigina, but still respect consistency
//think both generalizations were funny
To the Colts fan:
I heard there was a black market Manning on Dallas Clark porn tape you can watch in the privacy of your home, with the curtains down and the volume low.
Didn’t you ever wonder what was in the shopping cart of the homeless guy hanging around Lucas Oil stadium?
How do you think he eats/drinks?
I just wish I had access to such raw, unadulterated honesty when seeking advice for my sex life. Thankfully for all concerned, I no longer give a shit.
Royal Anteater, olive branch accepted. If I came across as too harsh, it’s only because it struck a raw nerve. Slash, as usual, is on point. Be really, really careful when discussing “oversensitivity” with other groups. You, by virtue of that recent comment, do not seem like a twat (though I don’t think this is like failing Mandarin; just use common sense and keep context in mind). Carry on…
Likintheladies: I had to violate my rule of finishing the entire mailbag before responding, but I just have to ask before my head explodes — you got a fear boner, didn’t you?
Y’know, the easiest thing might just be to show the gay guy this little post-fest. Either he’ll hate-rape you in the locker-room or be simply relieved he didn’t get involved with such a whiny little bitch. Either way, story over.
The great thing about this blog is that just about everyone’s an asshole. The shitty thing about this blog is that just about everyone’s an asshole.
@RoyalAnteater: Don’t apologize to these assholes. You’re 22 and you don’t have gay friends (obviously). How were you supposed to know? You tried your best here–in the comments and with the old gay dude. You’re trying to learn manners from commenters who don’t have enough to even gently admonish the ones who hilariously say you’re gay and that you should suck the dude off. Look, they’re right in what they’re saying, and you’re smart to take heed of Favrefail’s insight (and obviously it was pretty bigoted to condemn a whole group for the actions of one), but how are you the only one who comes off as a “twat with a stunning lack of self-awareness”? That’s the kind of comment that deserves a “fuck off”, not “thanks for the thoughtful fucking advice”. If these guys were Chinese they’d be pissed at you for failing an exam in Mandarin.
Hey OZZie:
Dump the Pats and stay far away from Schillinger.
You’ll thank me later.
More dick jokes. That should go without saying. My fault.
Slash- On point, as usual
Slash,
“I’m a 22 year old, clearly straight man, but should I go ahead and let him suck my dick, and see where it goes?”
That was *MY* line, dammit!
/aggrieved to the point of fisticuffs
FYI to Royal Anteater: Generally, jokes about a historically aggrieved group that implies agreement with the very stereotypes that have aggrieved said group, are not well-received, at least by that group. Attempting to do damage control by implying that that group doesn’t have a sense of humor about jokes made at its expense, also not well-received. Generally, when making a joke involving a historically aggrieved group, make fun of YOURSELF, not them. Something like:
“I’m a 22 year old, clearly straight man, but should I go ahead and let him suck my dick, and see where it goes?”
@Otarin, you’re right, I tried to make things more concise and omitted a few pertinent details. That was my fault, and I’ll do better next time. And Favrefail keeps writing posts at me. I feel like I’m leading him on. KIDDING! (too soon?). Hug it out bitch.
As an amusing aside, somewhat parallel to RA’s current predicament, I had a very brief conversation with my soon-to-be Ex earlier this week. She scolded me for 2 minutes, then told me I need to learn to talk to her. I thanked her for the advice, then left. If the mailbag teaches you anything (and it does, if you let it), it’s that good communication is not so much a rare commodity, but a task that needs to be worked on constantly.
/Dick or ex-wife joke. Take your pick. Or both.
[Carefully writes "FavreFAIL" on "Gay friend checklist"]
Kommenters kount, right? That brings me to a baker’s dozen!
@FavreFAIL:
So are you saying that my black friend doesn’t ensure I’m not racist? Damn…
@Anteater:
I’m inclined to think that your submission came across perhaps a bit sharper (and with fewer details, such as those you’ve since shared) in the interest of brevity, so I don’t exactly hold the letter as written against you. That said, I think you’d be better served with acknowledging that things came across improperly, rather than jumping to righteous indignation. I still think the gist of CC’s suggestions was valid, so good luck going forward!
@favrefail: I have tons of gay friends. It’s on my resume. But seriously, I don’t know many gay people that’s why I clearly mishandled the situation and asked for advice. And I actually do appreciate your thoughtful advice (1-3). I clearly do not understand gay people at all, and that helped. Plus, I just thought it might make for interesting conversation, not a huge sassfest from everyone. . All I tried to do was explain the situation and why I acted how I did. So I was seeking constructive advice as opposed to ruffling everyone’s feathers. So I will simply tell the gay gentleman that I am straight and wish for the text messages to cease immediately. There, can we all be happy with that?
@Royal Anteater,
So, you first say you’re trying to be careful about this whole situation because you don’t want to offend anyone, but then make a numbnut remark anyway and subsequently scold everyone for being “over-sensitive” when they get pissed? Fuck off. If you’re not a homophobe, you’re just some clueless doofus who clearly has not spent much time around gay people. If you actually had regular, personal contact with gay folks, you wouldn’t have been “skittish” about this whole ordeal and would’ve just told him to go away without having to write in to a fucking mailbag to address what is an otherwise simple situation. You also wouldn’t have made some idiotically condescending remark like “I thought gay people would know to handle the situation better” (or, as you said in the letter, “Does he not have the social responsibility to reign that shit in a little?”). If you don’t understand how that statement, in conjunction with your sentence about how you’re getting “irritated” with the gay community (as you just explained) would offend people, then this entire conversation is a lost cause. I’m sorry not everyone can read your fucking mind and accommodate you. Deal with it.
Moreover, lecturing other minority groups about not being so “oversensitive” (right, because people have never made dumbass reductionist arguments about the gay community before, nor have such sentiments ever negatively affected us in any way. As Peter King would put in, CONTEXT CLEARLY DOESN’T MATTER) just makes you come across as an even bigger twat with a stunning lack of self-awareness.
/awaits RoyalAnteater to retort about all of the gay friends/uncles he has, thereby not making him a homophobe (science proves it!)