
The final week of the regular season is upon us, which means that for most of us, the fantasy football season is over. God, that’s so depressing. I may drop some money in FanDuel just to get that fantasy rush of endorphins during Week 17.
Anyway, in case you’re interested in my fantasy credentials, both of my teams finished 8-5 this season, good for a 3-seed and a 4-seed. Then Aaron Rodgers got a concussion in Week 14, and I felt the unique pain of having the same player anchor both of your fantasy teams. Now, after three years of playing fantasy football in multiple leagues, I’ve never missed the playoffs — and I’ve never made the championship game. Which means that the advice you get here is guaranteed to be SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE. All for the low, low price of free. Nice!
But enough about me. Let’s get to the letters.
This first email came in a while ago, but I’m publishing it now because the fantasy question isn’t time-sensitive. And also because this chick seems cool.
Oh Captain my Captain,
Sex first, because that’s why I’m really writing, although I promise to observe the rules of the FF/sex mailbag. About 10 days ago began communicating via email and text with a guy I met online and it quickly became (pre-first-date) sexy (read: smutty texts and IMs), which was great because although I am looking for a long-term relationship and that is clear from my profile, it had been over a year and I could handle a nice uncomplicated romp. We meet, have a great night, with a real connection—flirty but also standard awesome first date stuff sharing tons of common interests and life stories— which culminates in exceptional sex (twice- go me, and hats off to him for his truly amazing recovery time).
THAT’S GOOD HUSTLE! When I’m not in a relationship, I always try to get 2-for-1 deals when I hook up, because you never know if that’ll be your last chance to have sex. Who knows, maybe you’ll have a two-month cold streak and then get hit by a bus, and you’ll lie there dying in the street thinking about how you should have nailed Melinda the morning after that one time you banged her. No thank you.
Anyway, that’s why you should always carry two condoms (also handy if the first one breaks).
Now, I am certainly smitten but getting the vibe that he may already be pulling back (mostly related to him not making firm plans to see me again, although he does have an intense workweek and we are still exchanging sexy messages daily). So, my question is actually NOT a specific one to this situation because hey, what happens, happens, and things are still evolving. No, my question is: why, in general, do games seem essential to finding love?
I respect that you’re not hating the player, but the games instead.
What I mean is, here I am, attractive, educated, successful, with a healthy libido and I connect with a guy who finds me as such and we have lots in common and spectacular sex, but the reality very well could be, I blew it right out of the gates by offering such an open attitude towards and easy access to sex (and dirty sex at that). I know, he and I will probably have the requisite ‘where is this going’ conversation, so again, not about this situation in particular, but why does it seem that a girl has to withhold sex for a certain amount of time, be shy or reticent about it, in order to be perceived as ‘girlfriend material’? Wouldn’t you think it’d be an easy win for the guy: “hey, I meet someone with whom I can talk, whom I find attractive and she can suck the chrome off a tailpipe and enjoy herself doing it….this is the girl for me! I must see her again post-haste”?
Well, if you scroll down to the comments, I’m sure you’ll find any number of heavyset blog-reading football fans who are eager to date you — sight unseen — and offer you their sweaty, unsatisfying love.
As for your more immediate problem, I don’t think there’s an easy fix. Men are told at an early age (by women, mostly) that girls who put out right away are sluts and therefore bad. But the message that young men need to hear is that women who are comfortable with sex should be honored and cherished, while attractive-but-prudish girls should be ostracized and told that they’ll die as old maids.
With the guy in question, there are any number of explanations I can offer up, but I don’t think there’s enough information in your letter to come to a definitive conclusion about him. If I had to take a guess, since he hasn’t made plans but is still sexting (ugh, I hate that word) you, the most likely explanation is that he has a gazillion other dates lined up on the ol’ Internet dating service. Especially in big cities, Internet daters can get AROUND. But don’t YOU change what you do just because one guy may or may not have gotten gun-shy. If you feel like the person and the time is right, go right ahead and fuck your brains out regardless of which date it is. You never know when you’re gonna get hit by a bus.
Now for FF, I started reading your stuff about a month ago for the sex, since football is a passing indulgence (my heart is fully absorbed with my Red Sox – yes ridicule away, but it’s lifelong, and I suffered through a childhood of being a Sox fan in NJ, watching whenever they managed to be on the abominable WPIX- gah, Phil Rizzuto!!). And in enjoying your wonderful advice about sex, I also learned enough about FF to think I’d really enjoy it. So my question is: clearly I have missed this season, but when does it start gearing up again, and as someone who works from home (no office) and is in a new city, how do I find a good league which will put up with a chick who knows nothing at the outset (but promises to learn)?
-Mrs. Michael Bluth
Ouch. No co-workers, AND you’re a female tyro? That’s a tough one. The fantasy football season starts gearing up a little before training camp (or the day of the draft, depending on your obsession), so I’d recommend putting it out on Facebook in June or early July that you’re looking for a league. The Internet is incredibly good at finding people who can fill your needs. Like that dude you banged.
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Dear Caveman,
I’m new at this so give me a pass and a bit of your wisdom. There’s this angel at my college named Brielle. People say she looks like Vanessa Hudgens if you are familiar with her.
Are you kidding? I work on the Internet. I saw the leaked photos of Hudgens nude, like, 30 seconds after it happened. Familiar with Vanessa Hudgens. Psssh.
She’s the type of girl you don’t mind cuddling with. Girlfriend material.
Or she would be, if you weren’t gay.
We met a few years ago when she dormed with a close female friend of mine and have remained casual friends. We would probably be closer if it weren’t for one small detail. She’s been dating the same guy for 6 years!
I respectfully kept my distance, figuring she was just going to be my crush forever. But around everyone else I made no secret of my obsession for her. It was a running joke between my friends and I. I’m pretty sure it got back to her but I didn’t care because I had nothing to lose. She and her boyfriend were going to get married and I was going to be that one dude who never got a chance.
But this fall it got interesting. To my surprise she got a little flirty. Then a few days ago the unthinkable happened.
She died?
Mid-conversation she broke out the big news. She and her boyfriend are officially done! With one semester of wonderful undergraduate freedom left ahead of me, the girl of my dreams is single and I have a legitimate shot at being her second boyfriend ever.
Ooohh, you can be the Jimmy Johnson of boyfriends! And with that title come all the trappings of dating someone who’s dumb enough to date the same asshole for half of high school and almost all of college.
Now we’ve only hung out one-on-one a couple of times and we aren’t extremely close just yet, but I can’t let this girl get away! With the holidays in full swing and a lot of stressful shit in my future (grad school interviews), it’s the perfect time to have a girlfriend. With winter break just starting I don’t want our relationship to get cold. I really want this thing to progress so I have something to look forward to when I go back to school.
Should I try and be smooth like Kieth Stone and tell this girl how I feel about her? Or should I give her some time to be single and hope she comes to me? I’ve played the waiting game before and lost, which is why I’m leaning towards laying it all on the line right now. I mean assuming I get into grad school my responsibility-free life essentially ends in less than a year. What should be my next move?
-Ho-Ho-Hopeless Romantic
Ugh, the sunny optimism of youth is nauseating.
Your letter inspired a lot of knee-jerk asshole responses from me. I’ve done my best to tone them down in the editing process, but let’s go to the bullets:
- Assuming you go to grad school, your responsibility-free life will continue for another 2-3 years. Unless you’re working full-time on the side, grad school is only slightly more work than college.
- Keith Stone? REALLY? Your benchmark for a man being smooth is a fucking Keystone marketing tool? Punch yourself in the dick and go watch Out of Sight immediately.
- Go ahead and ask this girl out, but for God’s sake, don’t be the anxious little lovestruck dipshit you sound like in your letter. The odds are pretty good that this girl has never taken you seriously as a love interest, and even if you DO successfully win her over and bed her, she’ll have a tough time living up to the ideal of her that you’ve created in your head. She is, after all, someone who spent three years of college dating her high school boyfriend. You know who does that? FUCKING MORONS. (On the plus side, it means you may have a chance with her after all.)
Really, what you need to win this girl over is, like, five more years’ experience with other women. Meanwhile, the last thing Brielle needs is another relationship; she’d benefit more from some penile variety than from another serious boyfriend. Put your feelings on the back burner and just try to nail her.
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Captain Falcon,
Sex: How long is too long when considering the time elapsed between a hook up and an attempt to hang out? Like, let’s say I had drunken sex with a girl about a half a year ago, but was never able to secure a second go-round, though (mostly) through lack of trying. How would I look to a girl if I — rather out of the blue — hit her up with a text message or through facebook chat? Is this desperate, or something worth trying? I’d rather not come off as a total creep.
I think you’ve allowed too much time to go by to send a text. Go with the Facebook message (not chat), and be sure to apologize for not following up after the last time. Apologies are powerful things. Saying something like, “I’m sorry I never followed up with you. I really should have, because I had a great time with you. Looking back, I don’t know why I didn’t do that. It was stupid” will go a long way to getting you back into her good graces.
Football: My fantasy football team finished in tenth place (out of twelve), and I’m a Browns fan. Everybody can go to hell.
Cheers,
Petey
Hey, the Browns had a better season than the Bengals. That’s something. In the way that a frozen dog turd is something.
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Dear Captain of Carnal Knowledge,
Sex: Fiance and I have been together for three years and will get married in June. I feel like we have the sex life of a couple that’s been married for 20 years with two kids and two stressful jobs. Once a week at most, with the occasional midweek handjob to keep me from complaining too much. Her dirty talk consists of, “Don’t come in me. I haven’t take my birth control.”
ROWR!
I’ve tried everything. Romancing with flowers, cooking, more flowers, massages, throwing her over the kitchen counter, acting like a disinterested macho asshole, etc. The sex used to be wild, but after three years and a troubled history, it’s a flashing red light going off six months before our wedding. Before we were engaged, the problem was that I wasn’t committed enough. Then I busted my ass on two jobs to pay for the ring, and she said I was avoiding her. Now the excuse for our lack of intimacy is that I’m not excited about the wedding.
She sounds like a delight. I’m sure your friends love her, too.
She’s also upset that our plans to buy a house didn’t work because I’m 26 years old and can’t afford one yet. She won’t flat-out refuse sex, but she never, ever initiates and does nothing suggestive. What makes this even more difficult is that she used to be a bona fide freak, and is still sexy as hell (she thinks garter belts are practical).
/enters first check mark under “PROS” list
I don’t expect road-head and public-bathroom sex every month, but I’d like my fiance to want me.
It’s fiancée, with two E’s. Unless you’re getting married to a dude.
So, Caveman, what gives? This has been going on for over a year now. Being a man, I use sex as a relationship barometer, and it’s not a good sign when I’m jealous of Rex Ryan’s sex life. Am I hoping for too much out of my future wife, or is this a sign of even more un-sexy times to come?
What gives? What gives is that you already know that you want to call the wedding off before you enter into a binding legal contract, and you’re looking for validation here in the mailbag. I’d guess you’ll probably find that in the comments section.
If you do actually love this girl and want to marry her — and that’s not the impression I get from your email — then you need to sit down and have a serious discussion about your feelings and needs, and how she isn’t meeting them. But it seems to me like you should do everyone a favor and call the wedding off while you can still get the deposit for the reception back.
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Hi there.
Fantasy: Keeper question! Can keep two, I’m stuck between Aaron Rodgers, Jamaal Charles and Calvin Johnson. Could also keep Steven Jackson, Rashard Mendenhall, Andre Johnson or Marques Colston, but I’m not as keen on those four. If it makes a difference, the league tends to overvalue QBs. And no, that goddamn team didn’t win anything.
Wow, that’s a tough one. If your league overvalues QBs, it seems wise to hold on to the best fantasy quarterback in the NFL — at least when he’s not leaving with a concussion after getting you two points in the first week of your fantasy playoffs, the fucking no-good son of a bitch. And as terrific as Megatron is, I’d probably keep Jamaal Charles, who’s positioned to have an even better year next year.
Uhh, other: Think I found my ideal girl. Similar interests, attractive enough and I know she’s into me. Problem: I’m 22, she’s 16 and I’m a coach of hers. Since this isn’t something I wanna go telling people, I really just need someone to tell me I’m insane and should probably turn off my 2-year countdown clock. Oh, and both her parents are lawyers. Yeah, I’m really this retarded. I should save him some time and go find Chris Hansen myself.
Thanks guys,
-Jimmy
You’re not insane. Sixteen-year-old girls can be crazy hot. They also have to be that hot, because they’re some of the dumbest and most annoying creatures on the planet.
Just wait until she’s 18, at which point you’ll be annoyed that she has another three years until she’s 21, at which point she’ll be having more fun with her college friends than her high school gym teacher. Until then, masturbate before work.




As stated above, good mailbag. In perusing updates, new information from FianceGuy was both forthcoming an appreciated, but I don’t think it changes or should change your decision at all – just the roadmap that got you here. From my experience (and not that this should mean jack shit to you, but some experience to draw on as the divorce attorney from above who deals with this shit every fucking day of my miserable fucking existence), and this isn’t a novel or unique thought, but your respective actions (your original dalliance, and her vicious and probably over-the-top response) are merely symptoms of other, deeper problems in the relationship. Trust is gone and ain’t coming back. Lack of trust eating away at love. Sexual issues now merely the outward manifestation of the problems in core of relationship. Getting married would really, truly, honestly be a bad move.
And, unfortunately, too many of our esteemed colleagues are speaking from a wealth of experience.
/and this comes from someone whom you have never met
//take it for what it’s worth
///but seriously, take the advice man
Whoopsie, really should’ve returned to this sooner.
@Gas Dude: Oh nuh uh, pictures are not gonna happen. Though I will add, I was totally up on that Stokke thing before Matt had it blow up on him. One of few perks of posting on a high-school track message board. (I was in high school then.)
@ Huck: Garr, I hate that /2 +7 thing. Least it’s right at 18 though for now, that’s reassuring.
@porky1: Now that there’s an excellent point. I mean, there’s not much shit in common aside from an interest in our mutual sport and myself. But for some reason, I’ve found that enough.
@Will Leitch’s Unfinished Novel: Safest bet, but I’m cognizant enough of how retarded it’d be to do something. I should be OK.
@ SHAPE_OF_J_PEEZY, LLC: Hmm, apparently I’m in a 16/18 ambiguous zone. Ain’t fuckin’ with that.
@Rudeboy: I’ve seen “Hard Candy,” does that count? Really helped quell any motivation I might have to risk anything, lest Ellen Page comes and rips my balls out.
@ Big Black Richard: Exactly, I’d heard of stuff like that coming up before. Just one of the dozen reasons why I definitely can’t do anything.
@ Werewolf Bar Mitzvah: Most weren’t drafted, I made a bunch of ridiculous trades. Jahvid Best for Megatron after Best’s huge week, Maclin and Torain for Rodgers, Nicks and Crabtree for Jackson. Did draft Mike Turner, Rashard Mendenhall and Jamaal Charles though, was pretty happy with that haul.
@ Jay Cutler’s Diabeetus: Don’t think they’ve had a new episode in a while, this place could host a good one.
@ Matt Casselhoff: I’m sure a bunch of them would be impressed with my actual job, coaching’s just a part time thing. Main problems are I don’t know anyone my age where I’m from, I’m shy as shit and I’ve got too much pride to sink to online dating just yet.
@Otto Man: I do what I can. And while there really isn’t a long list of mutual interests, I still am probably both of those things.
@Johnny Utah: Was my prior idea, basically. Decent enough. And I’m not the only coach, that would’ve been much less smart.
@Not sexy: This I have not considered. I haven’t treated her any differently than any other of the kids I coach, don’t think I’ve “messed with her” or anything. Definitely a good idea to cool the jets though, just in case.
@Pedobear:
Not sure if you’re still reading, but “similar interests…and I know she’s into me.” Makes it sound like you’re either delusional (likely, as others have noted) or you already know too much about this girl.
Have you given her the slightest bit of encouragement? If she’s the kind of girl who likes messing around with older guys and she starts feeling jilted by you, she can ruin your life even if you’ve done nothing wrong — and she might be enough of a psycho to enjoy doing it. I hope to FSM you’ve been completely professional around her, and for crying out loud never be alone one-on-one with her (or any teen girl, for that matter, I hope you know this already). You might want to document anything she’s said to you that gives you the feeling that she’s into you and anything that she says to you in the future.
Of course, if you’ve been so much as a little bit flirty with her, she can already ruin you anytime she wants and you should probably quit the coaching gig NOW and move out of town, before she realizes you’ve messed with her and runs to the law firm of “Her house.”
@fiance-
Everyone here is giving you the right advice: call it off. Here is why: the relationship was over the minute you cheated on her. She knows it, you know it. She did not “get her revenge.” You are not even, and you also know that. It’s obvious from her actions that you can never make it up to her. So the both of you are playing a sadistic, stubborn game of chicken with your future happiness. Marrying the wrong woman is the worst mistake I ever made, it took away a decade of happiness from me, and cost me a bunch of friends. If you didn’t love her enough to keep your dick in your pants, you shouldn’t marry her.
Kam Fong as Chin Ho says:
December 30th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
@Paul-God myfantasyleague.com. You can thank me later.
+1
@Fiancee Guy: Cut and run, dude. If you’re having these problems now, marriage won’t make them better. Quick tip: Marriage does not make the sex better or hotter. If you’re having problems in this department now, you can damn well bet you’ll have them later.
Well, allow me to retort
@22 year old dude- I’m guessing this assistant coaching gig doesn’t pay six figures, so fuck it – nail her on her 18th birthday (if this is a hs coaching gig, you should probably wait until graduation day also)
@everybody else – wanting to bang sixteen yr olds =/= pedophilia…. Illegal? Likely. Pedophilia? No.
/who the fuck hired a 22 year old dude to coach 16 year old girls
well fiance guy, she fucked at least 3 guys in 3 weeks after you cheated on her once. she seems like a vindictive psycho bitch. cut and run. get. out. of. there. obviously wait for other advice, but jesus dude.
way too many issues for marriage.
Alright a lot of the gay shit I wrote was done in an attempt to get my letter on this website. I’ll clarify to retain some dignity. I’m 21, not a virgin, not some delusional failure … just a guy who would rather try a relationship (especially with a girl of the caliber that I described in my letter) than go on with the same old random one-nighters. I probably do need to man up but this girl’s first and only boyfriend was a tool too so I might be in good shape.
Thanks for the advice though, I got a small window I need to make the most of it. If that fails I’ll just knock on her door and whip it out on the day before graduation.
Revenge was going back home for three weeks to take stock of her life and fuck an ex-boyfriend (and some other dude). I also found a used condom on top of the trash can when we first got back together. This was from another ex. It’s a hell of a life, boys.
@fiance guy
what exactly was her revenge, and yes this is important.
Well best of luck to that “ho-ho-hopeless romantic”. With lines like that, it’s no wonder why you’re…well…hopeless. Fantasy football is over but the real season is still alive and well. Bring on the incessant ref calls and text message scandals!!! Whooo-hoooooo!!!
really knocked it out of the park with the last mailbag of 2010.
Fiancee Guy — Ok, the new information illuminates quite a bit, so I’ll add a bit to my response.
Some ladies never completely get over a guy cheating on them. Doesn’t matter how many counseling sessions, how many apologies, doesn’t matter how sincere you are about never doing it again, some ladies just never get past it. This is also true of guys who get cheated on as well, but we’re talking about ladies here right now.
Anyway, so you ask yourself, “if she’s never going to completely get over that I cheated on her, and therefore never find me desirable again, then why the hell is she still marrying me and spending the rest of her life with me?”
I have no fucking idea what the answer to that one is. I had something similar happen to me. Even though she was unhappy in the relationship, she would have stayed with me forever if I hadn’t broken it off. I have no idea why.
Anyway, yes, breaking off an engagement is tough. Best of luck to you on that, and I hope you move on to a better relationship.
@Ho-Ho-Hopeless
Dude I hate to say this because typically I am the consummate gentleman and I go out of my way to be courteous and chivalrous (read: not a total dick) most times, but when it comes to situations where you’ve got a small window of opportunity with a dream girl you have to throw caution to the wind and go for the sex. I went for the relationship with a senior (I’m a sophomore) and so I went the courteous and friendly route, and as a result I spent the semester not fucking an incredibly gorgeous chick, which is exactly the same spot I would have found myself in had I straight up asked for sex and gotten rejected. You have nothing to lose, bro. Sexy Rexy would go deep. You must embrace the inner Cumslinger and stop being a nice guy.
@jimmy: The movie “Election” would be as good one for you to see. Lots of Reese Withspoon being a huge student bitch. The way your relationship ends is in the first 15 minutes of this movie. And it ain’t pretty.
@MrsBluth — I deviate greatly from the norm in a lot of aspects of my life, and sex/dating is certainly one of them. While it IS about sex a lot of times, and believe me there are several women I’m looking into at pretty much all times, if a girl suggests she’d give it up without even a formal date, I don’t take advantage of it. To me it screams that the girl wants to rope me in and not let me out. I could be totally wrong, and they might just be looking for fun, but if I guess wrong then I’m stuck with a crazy psycho who claims I knocked her up even though I wore a condom and didn’t even finish because her dirty talk turned me right the fuck off. The best girls I have had in my life have taken just enough time to get to know that I’m not a “notch on the bedpost” type of guy, and then not let anything stand in our way.
The problem then arises when the fun girl turns out to not be what I’m seriously looking for, whether it’s attitude, red flags, or lack of common interests, and I have to find a way to let her down without looking like a guy who got what he wanted and bailed. Anyone raised in a household like me shys away from early sex in the first place because subconsciously we hate ourselves if the above happens.
Thanks all for the sounding board and advice. As CC suggests, the email was sent a ways back and there was a subsequent date and two-fer and then it went the way of a lot of things: fizzle city. I am cool, and sincerely wasn’t particularly interested in parsing that experience per se. I have had plenty of dates with interesting men in my life where sex was not had on the first date, nor even the third- it’s all about how it evolves with the particular guy, timing, interest level, etc. I was more just philosophically interested in this idea of why it seems that if one were honestly looking to find love there needs to be withholding on the woman’s part or reticence about enjoying sex…. From my perspective it just shouldn’t be hard: you like someone, you have lots to talk about and shared interests, you fuck and it’s good… let’s keep hanging out. But I think one of the key perils of internet dating is this idea of finding your market value and trying to surpass it- i.e. “I find someone good who’s interested back, hey, could someone BETTER be around the corner? I shall keep looking.” And that’s my beef. Who wants to keep “looking for something better” when the bird in the hand is (in my mind) worth two in the bush (and yeah, lame pun intended). Anyhoo, this is shittons of fun, guys. Thanks for the audience, and CC, thanks for the publish.
Mrs. Bluth: I wouldn’t read too much into your friend’s distance as long as the texts are still coming. Maybe be a little slow to return a few–let a day or two pass before you send him a tit- shot. Don’t ask clingy questions like, “What did I do wrong?” Play the whole thing for laughs–he’ll be back.
Fiance guy and others on the same path: If she truly enjoyed the sex at first, you have to basically demand she reboot her head. And I’d at least postpone the wedding until you’re sure she got straight again. Guys go their entire dating life dealing with rejection–we don’t get married to deal with that shit. Tell her you ain’t having that and it isn’t up for discussion. I did this and it has been working for like 8 years now.
Petey: I probably wouldn’t apologize but it doesn’t sound like bad advice. I’d probably make up some shit like how I lost her number or maybe that I thought she wasn’t into me. Chicks like that you might think they’re out of your league, so maybe go with that as an excuse, but you thought you’d make one last kamikaze run at her.
Ho-Ho Dude: Sounds to me like you’re pretty well fixed here. She knows you like her and she made a point to tell you she’s available. Just don’t be a weenie–pounce like the jungle cat! Don’t let her get any ideas in her head except that you want her horizontal now.
And lay off the coach here. He knows it’s wrong or he’d have done it already.
If we got Kevin Spacey to act out these mailbag entries, it’d be “American Beauty”.
FianceGuy,
Obviously the additional details you have thus-far withheld from us totally override the basic facts that you’ve provided. Sure, you both seem miserable *now*, but I’m pretty sure that straightening out your fundamental relationship is much harder than simply keeping your head down and doing your five years in a bitter, sexless marriage until you get out on parole with child support.
Go ahead and marry the girl. If you want sex, you can always coach high school softball and bag a 16 year old.
@ Ped-o-Bear
I’m a little late to the party but I feel a need to reiterate what Big Black Richard said above: this is abusing a position of authority. Doesn’t matter if she’s a 16 year old sophomore in high school or a 20 year old sophomore in college — you don’t do it. Same goes for managers, professors, platoon sergeants, etc.
“If they’re under you then they should never be under you,” or something to that effect.
Not only is that wrong in an ethical sense, but it also represents a damn fine way complicate your life in ways that I’m sure you don’t want complicated. We’re talking Megan’s-Law-knock-on-doors complicated here, which should only underscore what a horrible fucking idea that is.
To Fiancee guy, who is still spelling it wrong, it seems you’ve found your answer. Was she actually good/fun/willing in bed before the cheating incident?
Thank you for holding up the mirror fellow mailbaggers. Of course there’s more to the story, but because it was my first time writing, I wanted to keep things simple. I wanted a general response, so I gave a general summary of the problem. More relevant details below:
1.) Two years ago I cheated on her. I know this is the source of the problem, but it should be irrelevant now. She got her revenge, counseling ensued, people grew up, etc.
2.) She doesn’t withhold sex, she just never wants it. If I prod enough, I get it, and once a month it could even be called inspiring. When I ask why she never seems to want it, that’s when I get the bullshit excuses.
3.) She doesn’t want me to “provide her” with a house. She makes the same cash as me, and her family has a shitload of money. She’s 29, so she wants to move into a grown-up house.
I could get into 100 more relevant details that may shift your thinking, but your general responses have told me enough. It’s exactly what friends of told me, but it’s a fucking hard thing to do.
Thanks all.
I only read the first two e-mails, but:
1st – I also try to get two-fers when I can as well. I’m like a camel in that way, I try to have as much sex as possible because you never know when you’ll have another drought.
3rd person- Sex doesn’t get better after marriage and children. I had an attractive wife that was a freak before marriage. Shit dried up like you explained after two kids. I got plenty for a married guy, but it was totally uninspired on her part, and no amount of trying on my part could get her to change. It pisses you off and makes the marriage suffer. 11 years later, and most of those frustrating for me, we’re divorced.
Basically, it doesn’t get better unless both sides acknowledge there is a problem. Better do it now before marriage.
Mrs. Bluth: You should stop being so easy. Find a victim and withold the kitty if he doesn’t provide you a house by 26.
Hopeless: You should impress her with the depth of your feelings for her. Try serenading her from outside her bedroom window. Girls love that shit.
Petey: She’s just been waiting for you to hit her up. Try texting her a pic of your man-tackle to remind her of what she’s missing.
Engaged to Rachel Maddow: All women are like that and you’re lucky to have her.
Jimmy: 2 years?? Listen, son: If she’s old enough to send to the store, she’s old enough to get bred.
@Internet Dating Girl – Don’t let the hypocritical ways of the masses get you down. Why shouldn’t women want/enjoy sex as much as guys do? My last two relationships began with sex of the first date. That was only a plus in my book. That girlfriend material shit, is just that. It’s fucking stupid people being hypocrites. Mostly women who like to think they’re superior or somehow better. It’s the vestiges of the too much fucking church in this country. Fuck that.
@Fiance(e) – This has been mentioned by now many times above, but take it from a guy who started seeing warning flags while engaged but didn’t want to have a failed engagement and so went into marriage anyway. Some number of kids, and many years later, I was the failed marriage guy. The sex gets worse. You mentioned sex once a week as married for twenty years with 2 kids sex. You have no idea. That’s sex after being married for 6 months without kids. Add kids, and it only gets worse and worse. All the stuff about be romantic, do this for her, do that for her, that’s all stupid, stupid, dumb, retarded, and stupid. If she doesn’t like/want sex with you, that won’t change because you buy flowers, and if it does, then how many fucking flowers do you want to buy? You’ll be saving your money for AMPs which cost a lot more than flowers.
@Hopeless – If you like this girl, then you have to let her know. If you wait around for her to come to you, you will wait, forever, and you will always wonder. If you try and she responds, then great. If you try and she doesn’t, then you at least no longer have to wonder. Despite the beat down you’ve taken here, go off and pursue. Maybe some % of women don’t want the “in touch with his feelings” guy, but if that’s you, then you want a girl who appreciates that aspect of you anyway. We can’t change our core. We just have to find those who value it.
@ Borderline Pedophile – we have a couple of sayings down here that might fit your situation:
1) ” 15 will get you ten to twenty ”
2) “That cute (UNDERAGE) girl you’re flirting with? Her daddy has 100 acres and a shotgun”
3) ” He needed killin’ ”
@ Woman who internet hooked up and is feeling like a dishrag. Figure out what you want. Relationship, hook up / fuck buddy / one night stand(s), a friend w/ benefits.
@ Dude in near sexless relationship. (The following is predicated on the assumption you have done nothing wrong)
All women are crazy to one degree or another. ALL. It’s just a matter of how much they let out at any given time. Think of it as radiation. Sometimes she gives you a chest X-ray’s worth. Sometimes you get a nuclear blast. And if you think the sex is going to become MORE frequent AFTER marriage ?
BWAHAHAHAHAHHA
So do the following:
1) Sit down
2) Put on your tennis shoes
3) RUN
Have the ” Come to Jesus ” talk for YOUR emotional * CLOSURE *. But GTFO before you wake up one morning and find your Liver stapled to the bathroom door.
Sam Kinison said it best about pussy ” You might as well put a trigger on it ladies because you use it like a weapon “.
(Hey guys, I came in first in my league, my very first fantasy win, and I want to say thank you to CC and all of the commenters because I have learned so much this year from y’all)
Mrs. Bluth – this is always going to be a problem, it is the way of the world, until you find the guy who doesn’t care about your sex tendencies. Unfortunately those guys are going to fall into two patterns: needy sticky booger dudes who are so desperately in love with you instantly that they’re gross (see: huge mistake of a dude I dated who after we hooked up pretty early on in the relationship asked me, explicitly, to please not hurt him emotionally, like, ew) and then guys who are enlightened and cool (my husband).
My husband, who I started sleeping with before we started dating, actually ulitmatumed me – I thought I was being super cool and laid back and I wasn’t really into a relationship at the time, but we were hanging out and having lots of fun and he finally said “look, if you want to sleep with me, we need to be in a relationship, I can’t just be your fuck buddy, it’s not enough for me.” Which freaked me out but then I came around and that was many years ago and we’re happy as pigs in shit, so it’s possible.
This was before internet dating was a thing normies did, though, so I have no experience with that business. It seems kind of ruthless and weird to me, and I think maybe it might be easier to translate the disconnect and self-absorption that the internet gives you just as a general rule into interactions with people.
Yeah, I’m really this retarded. I should save him some time and go find Chris Hansen myself.
Thanks for saving me time with my response.
As a P.S., if you’re a 22-year-old man who has the same interests as a sixteen-year-old girl, I’m afraid you might be gay.
Or retarded.
Or both.
Top fivish mailbag. It’s 75% certain that there is a 90% probability this is a Hall of Fame mailbag.
I’m guessing ho ho hopeless is still a virgin.
+1 to Soy Spartacus. I should have picked up that “troubled history” bit. Odds are that there’s shit he ain’t telling us. If he cheated, then he definitely needs to break off the engagement, move on to another relationship, and treat the next one much better.
@fiance Not much more that can be said that hasn’t already. I think there is more to the story then we are getting IMHO.
@Coach Pedo Obviously you knew the answer you’d get if you included her rents were both Lawyers. Seriously though, no hot chicks around your age or over 18 that would be impressed you are a coach?
You slept with him on the first date and now he won’t have anything to do with you? Boy, I’ve never heard of that happening before. How strange. Why are you all hung up over it? You got what you wanted, why can’t you leave it at that? And you have to consider that for whatever reason he may not have enjoyed it as much as you did. If it was as good as you said it was, there are very few males who would turn down many repeat engagements especially with no strings attached. And assistant coach after 16 year olds? You are a fucking loser. Obviously you can’t score with real women so you go after young, impressionable girls. If I knew who you were, I would call the police on you myself and let them sort it out. As for the soon to be married guy, I suspect that you are one of those people that fucking KNOW the shit ain’t right and will probably still get married. The right thing to do is almost always the toughest thing to do and that would be to let her know why it’s not gonna work out and move on with your life. Unless you’d rather be miserable for the rest of your life, but that’s on you now.
Engaged (engorged?) guy: I’ll add to the chorus and say that you should not marry her. You know it is true, but breaking off an engagement seems so fucking hard I, I know. A good friend of mine did just that, though and you know, I respect the hell out of him for it (it was the right decision).
Also, about the sex, it does NOT get better. Trust me, you do not want to be one of the sad sacks that inhabit sexless message boards:
http://sexlessmarriage.yuku.com/
Go ahead, browse those boards for a few minutes, feel the despair, the lack of affection, the feeling of being stuck in a marriage that you so need to get out of but can’t because you have kids, a house, and will get taken to the cleaners if you get a divorce. Your fiancee may not seem like an easy person to deal with breaking off the engagement, but the divorce will be 100x worse. The divorce lawyer up above speaks the truth.
To all seeking avatars: register at gravatar.com using the email you use to post here.
Capt Caveman, have you ever considered a run for president? You’ve got my vote.
To the KSK Kommentariat: increasingly, y’all are the only proof I consistently see that there’s any common sense left in this country. Keep up the out-fucking-standing work.
OH and Mrs. Bluth (love the name btw) my brotastic frat bro who has never had a problem getting girls in his life is CLEANING UP on dating sites right now, absolute truth. So he might just be a player, let’s hope not though.
And I want an avatar dammit, how do I get one?
So, when does MSNBC plan on bringing Chris Hansen back to host a new show: “To Catch a Predator: KSK Edition”? That I would like to see. “Just bein’ stupid I guess”.
@Jimmy – How the FUCK did you draft that team?
@Ho-Ho-… whatever. Typical don’t be gay, be a man comment. There’s a quote from “Bored to Death” that I’d butcher if I tried to do it myself so I’ll copy/paste:
Claudia Worth: Are you a man or a boy?
Jonathan: Well… what’s the difference?
Claudia Worth: With a man, you feel like you’re being taken, and you like it. And with a boy, you feel like they’re stealing something from you, and you don’t like it.
@Paul-God myfantasyleague.com. You can thank me later.
Where’s mt avatar?
Mrs. Michael Bluth needs to show a little more respect when talking about Phil Rizzuto
Dude with the complaining, expectant nag for a fiancee: dead that shit yesterday.
Aside: I was at the movies recently, and the actor who plays Senator Clay Davis has to act gangster in one of the preview scenes, which leads him to say something like “I do a convincing impression of Omar from the TV show The Wire.” I didn’t know how to feel about that since he was, you know, on The Wire. It would be like Matt LeBlanc making a joke about Friends. Oh wait, that’s the whole schtick for his new show.
/dick joke
“I feel like we have the sex life of a couple that’s been married for 20 years with two kids and two stressful jobs. Once a week at most, with the occasional midweek handjob to keep me from complaining too much.”
You have the wrong idea of what’s a normal sex life. I will go to the CougarTown quote:
“Once a week!? What are they, animals?”
YOU’RE FINE. You’re just looking for a reason to get out of the relationship.
fiance guy: does ‘troubled history’ and trouble committing=cheating on your part? If so, that changes everything.
Mrs. Michael Bluth, it’s hard to describe but I think there’s a clear difference between, say, a girl whose sexual appetite demands that she get drunk and blow you in a bar bathroom your first night together, or the girl who dirty texts followed by good, American, dirty sex. The former doesn’t feel as much like girlfriend material but the latter is frickin wife material. I think you’re safely in the 2nd category.
ho-ho-hopeless, you can’t just sit around and wait for greatness to land on your lap, you gotta go get that shit.
@Pallazzo: Agreed, that kid is like that line from Scrubs (when it was funny). “He is a ‘sensie’… his music: acoustic alternative, he marvels at fireflies in the summer, and when he takes a girl home, sure he cops a feel…of her hair as she’s bent over to vomit.”
/suggests Nick Drake when she turns you down, just don’t kill yourself.
unsatisfied dude: it will never get any better. easier to get out now, instead of getting a divorce in 3 years.
Dear Mrs Micheal Bluth
I’m not heavyset.
Also, I firmly believe in putting out on the first date.
If its right, why not “rules” be damned.
@anonymous pussytuber: I challenge the notion that the “ideal” is to have a woman who has never been with any guy but me. If she’s disease free, and if I’m secure in my manhood, then it really doesn’t matter if she’s had one partner or 100. Everything else you said was gospel.
@Fiancee guy: Add my vote to the “run” side of the ledger. How many votes is that now? Dude, this is experience talking here — everything you’ve said about her, especially the part about her giving you crap for not being able to buy a house, indicates a woman that is going to make you miserable for the rest of your life. Get the hell out now, before she suddenly finds out that she “accidentally” got pregnant.
@Mrs. Bluth: If everyone saw things the way you do, the world would be a better place. Unfortunately, that’s not gonna happen.
@Ho-ho-hopeless: I’m not gonna bag on you, because I was just like you when I was 18. HOWEVA…. if you want this situation to work out, you’re gonna have to figure a way to cut your emotions back by about 20-30%. Good luck with that.
@Jimmy: Even if 16 is legal in your state, there’s probably a law that still makes it illegal if you’re in a position of authority over her. Being her (non-high school) coach is kind of a gray area, but still, that’s one more reason that you really, REALLY shouldn’t pursue things with this chick.
@Slash: Where y’at, doll? You usually post by now…
@ pederass: just fuck the sixteen year old. old enough to pee, old enough for me!
@ Willl Leitch
You’ve gotta know the pussy before you can tube it.
/didn’t kiss a girl till he was 18
HS Coach Guy, go rent a Matthew Broderick movie called Election. Also, stop being stupid
Man, I don’t know whether this mailbag (and subsequent advice from the Kommenters) makes me feel more depressed for, or appreciative of, the life I lead.
/shows self the door
Fiancé guy-
run.
/newly married after four years of dating
//wife is pushing for more sex but i’m stalling
///the spirit is willing but the flesh is spongy and bruised
One of the many things I love about this site is honest, heartfelt and genuinely good, solid advice from someone with the handle “Anonymous Pussytuber.” The dichotomy never ceases to amaze me.
God, it’s almost morning. Excuse me while I kiss my fly.
Jimmy – the internet is your friend, http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm
For sex do most people just have one and dones? cause I always try and have sex 2 or 3 times with a 10-20 minute break in between.
To the pre+fivorced moron;
She is 26 and wants a house?
That means she won’t abide her and your kids attending state colleges. See Bucknell, Bowfoin, e,g.
She will quit work soon and nail you 4 alimony. You will remarry after the kids hit about 10. Your new wife will be similar since you clearly have no taste.
New wifey will evrntually object to the support and alinony paymengs you will pay for most of your high-earning years.
And you know you will have a kid with No. 2 wifey and divorce yet again, now paying 2 exes, 3 or more private college tuitions, and fighting anout COLAs in aq sdank courthouse.
You’d be better off dead. But you won’t listen.
Happy new year, fool.
Fantasy Football Season Is Over, But Sex Season Never Ends
(*drops out of school, writes steamy romance novel titled, “Butt Sex Season Never Ends”*)
fiance- First, tell her heart-to-heart. If she doesn’t change soon, and you still feel she’s worth the effort, see a counselor. Do not resign yourself to a life of begging for sex, unless you’re into such things. CC is right. Breaking off an engagement may be painful, but divorce can be emotionally and financially bankrupting.
H0-Ho- hopeless, don’t wait for her. If you want her, go and get her. If you wait, she’ll assume you’re not interested and go fuck some douche bag and you will hate her forever for it.
So let me sum this mailbag up.
1. Mrs. Bluth – Guy fucks girl the first night and loses interest – a real shocker. One thing to realize about single life is both sexes are constantly trying to ‘out kick their punt coverage.’ As George Castanza once said “When I like them, they don’t like me, and when they like me, I don’t like them.” Like CC said, keep doing what you’re doing, you seem like a cool chick.
2. Hopeless Romantic – You are so fucked – your story screams “I’m already in the friend zone with this girl.” It almost seems like you’re asking how “not to be a douchebag.” It’s very simple; don’t act the way you normally do, or don’t act like You.
3. Captain Falcon – Good question – CC advice was right on.
4. Like Romantic Douche, you are so fucking fucked, and do you know what is going to make walking away from this woman significantly harder? Marrying her. Its Come-To-Jesus-Talk Time.
5. Last guy – You’re justifying having a crush on a 16 year old? Yeah, I don’t doubt she is hot, but how in your right mind can you consider ANYTHING other than just looking, are some sort of… fucking idiot?
Soon to be married guy,
those midweek handjobs are going to disappear once you get back from the honeymoon. Get the fuck out now.
How can you marry someone and have a family and a house when you cannot enough grow the balls to say to her face “We need more sex”? It’s your fault too.. She cannot read your mind. I don’t understand why people are like this. Why people are willing to just let a problem sit, build up, until finally the news is dropped and it’s tn times worse than if you had just said something in the fist place. If you’re reading this, right now, right this fucking second, stop reading this and talk to her. I get it, it’s not easy to say to her “you’ve hurt my confidence, I don’t feel sexy because you always deny me”. I get it, it makes you feel emasculated, and embarrassed, but clearly she needs to make you feel wanted in order for you to be happy, because right now you are not happy.
Soon to be married guy,
your sex life is going to inevitably change as the relationship matures. Only though open and honest communication will you find the right balance (BLAH BLAH BLAH). What worries me is that you don’t once mention the other enduring qualities that makes you want to marry her. I would be more worried about that.
Mrs. Bluth: men’s attitudes toward sex and women are complicated. And by “complicated” I mean “we try to sleep with as many women as we possibly can, until we start worrying about our own mortality and decide we’d better get married and have kids, and/or we start worrying about our own attractiveness and decide we’d getter get married while a reasonably attractive woman will have us.”
When you make it easy for a guy to sleep with you, it tells him that he doesn’t have to put any work into getting into your pants, so he can spend his energy trying to sleep with other women and he will have you as a “fallback” bed partner. Whether you see that as a good thing or a bad thing is up to you, but the expectation that he will recognize how wonderful and unique you are is probably unrealistic (granted that anything is possible).
My mother taught me that we take for granted that which is given to us, and we value that which we have to work to obtain. When I was 15 I told her she was dead wrong: at 50+ I think she was spot on.
@Jimmy – Assuming the age of consent is 18 in your state; in addition to some prison time, you get the privilege to register as a sex offender for the rest of your life. Most of my clients that received this privilege would have rather been given additional prison time than face the stigma of being labeled a sex offender for a fairly innocent crime.
@soon to be married guy: It doesn’t get any better once your married – if sex is a high priority of yours and a low priority of hers, it will only get higher for you and lower for her during the marriage. Before dumping her, you should atleast talk to her and let her know your priorities and your expectations. Women don’t take subtle hints; the reason cavemen carried clubs. If you don’t talk to her, get married and then have kids, you will get divorced within 5 years.
also second the classes at community college suggestion from porky1… better yourself and satisfy your pedo urges
who doesn’t envy rex ryan’s sex life?
Paul-God: I am in leagues in both Yahoo! and CBSSportsline, and a commish in CBS. For what it’s worth, I tend to prefer CBS, and have been involved in the same league with CBS for about 8 seasons. Never any big hassles.
Married Guy: Run, run like the wind, my friend. Run as if the hounds of hell are breathing down your neck, because in just about every way, they are. Cold feet prior to marriage is perfectly normal, but usually focused on such generalities as the changes marriage necessarily entails (loss of certain freedoms, likely parenthood to follow, real grown-up responsibilities and shit like that). Your worries on focused on major, MAJOR flaws that totally undermine the very viability of your relationship. Either get into serious, SERIOUS premarital counseling like yesterday, or call the entire thing off. Guaranteed you will be divorced, which totally sucks ass, inside three years.
/coming from a divorce attorney, for what it is worth
//divorced once myself, which totally sucks ass
///personally had about 1/10th of the concerns you have going into your personal shitstorm
Prospective Pedophile: Yeah, umm, probably should just cut bait on the whole coaching thing right now, as peds don’t get along too well in the criminal justice system. Just saying.
Mrs. Bluth: Methinks you aren’t going to run into too many difficulties with the whole dating thing. Don’t sweat the details, hon.