
Allow me to begin this week’s edition with a brief “State of the Mailbag,” for lack of a better term.
The Sex/Fantasy Football Mailbag has been around long enough to identify some trends in the questions. Guys want to climax on their girlfriend/wife’s face, guys want to have anal sex with their girlfriend/wife, guys want to have a threesome, guys want their girlfriend to lose weight, et cetera. (I can’t recall a dude asking for exercise tips so he can look better for his woman). And every time I field one of these questions, some part of me is like, “What the hell? Is porn this guy’s only reference for sex?”
And the answer, I’ve come to realize, is yes:
You needn’t watch the whole video here, but I found it interesting. The gist of it is that, due to the rise of the Internet, an entire generation of young men has grown up with easy access to porn at a younger age. There was a time when a stolen Playboy was the fucking JACKPOT. You had to develop a system to rotate between the three pictorials in the issue to keep them fresh for as long as possible. Now… hell, I don’t even know how young men graduate middle school. A 13-year-old with his own computer and an Internet connection can whack off to things I didn’t even know existed until my mid-20s.
Anyway: back to what the Asian lady in the video said. Because of our bullshit Puritanical society, parents and schools are too chickenshit to give actual, worthwhile sex education, so young men actually think anal sex and facials and threesomes are the norm (which I’m sure they are in some relationships, but not society at large).
All of this, I guess, explains the last year or so of questions that seemed idiotic to the point of retarded to the point of comical. Anyway, if you’re a young whippersnapper who got an early start with Internet porn, please give Make Love Not Porn a look. Consider it Sex 101 before the advanced course here at KSK.
Now, on to your your questions:
Gurus-
Sex: I have been married for 12 years, been through a lot of shit (child with cancer, her pill addiction, etc, etc). We separated for six months and I found a girl who was the anti-her (loved the sexy-time, cooked, cleaned, etc)…but all I really wanted was to go back to wifey. Now, everything goes great for a while, then the wife brings up “the Kraken” and it’s back to shitsville. Any hope for the future, or will I be hearing about this in 12 more years? PS – she fucked some dude while I was dating “the Kraken”. So we’re even, right?
So, wait. Is the Kraken a girl you slept with or a mythical sea monster? The Kraken I’ve come to know through mythology didn’t do the dishes.
Here’s the thing. I appreciate and encourage your brevity, but you just dropped 12 years of heavy shit into a pretty brief paragraph. Frankly, I think that sleeping with someone during a trial separation — especially when your wife did the same — shouldn’t be that big of a deal considering you’ve made it through a child with cancer and a pill addiction together. But then, I’m also a single guy with fairly liberal views about sex. The person to help you through this tough time is a licensed therapist, not a football blog.
Fantasy: Dynasty league wise, how bad-ass is Jermichael Finley?
- Reggie Bush apologist
Minor-ly badass? Don’t get me wrong, I picked up Finley when I realized John Carlson blew, and I enjoyed a couple great games from Finley toward the end of the season. But I’m not ready to crown his ass Antonio Gates 2.0 until I see a full season of production out of him. When it comes to keeper leagues, I’d hope I have at least two or three sure things who have more proven value than a tight end who might be breaking through to the top tier.
Sexbags,
My girlfriend dumped me early Thursday evening.
Bummer.
I don’t plan on moping about it forever or anything, but I would like to close this relationship before opening another one. As such, I have a couple questions.
1. I asked her if she had been planning this for some time, and she said she hadn’t. This is strange because I knew a week ago that she was going to break up with me. She started to become reluctant to say “I love you”. Is she lying to make me feel smart? Is she lying to make herself feel less heartless? Or did I just pick up on something she wasn’t consciously aware of?
When it comes to questions about a break-up, don’t ask what you already know. The break-up is awkward and painful enough for both sides without someone being all “How long have you known?” Even if you get an honest answer, what does that change? “Oh my God, you knew you were going to break up with me when you took me to the movies last week!”
She’s lying because it’s awkward, and because your feelings are already hurt enough.
2. The reason she gave for breaking up is that we don’t “share the same values” and that we “disagree on too much.” One thing she mentioned is that she’s an atheist and that I am “religious”. (This is actually not true. I do believe in God, but the reason I attend a Church is for the social benefits.) Another is that she is a humanist and I’m not. However, she placed a lot more emphasis on differing philosophies about sex differences and art (of all things!) Even though she said I’ve been wonderful to her and actually went as far as calling me a “nice person”, I’m wondering if I’m a misogynist jerk, and she just doesn’t want to upset me by saying so.
Who knows? The point is, she doesn’t feel that you’re the right person for her.
(The “nice person” thing is bullshit, too. I’m a misanthrope who’s only nice to friends and service employees.)
Yeah, I’m in that club, too.
3. Further reason for breaking up was that she “didn’t see it working out in the long run,” and that she thought it best to break up “before…” (she just trailed off and didn’t end the sentence). I interpreted this as her being juvenile. My theory is that she was enjoying the relationship, and was afraid it would fail, so she just ended it before something bad could happen. Is this likely, or am I way off base?
It’s possible, but I wouldn’t call it “likely.” From your description of what she said, it sounds like you were enjoying the relationship a lot more than she was. Most relationships have an imbalance in who likes the other person more, and — having been on both sides multiple times — I can tell you that the person who’s more into it generally can’t see the other person’s lack of enthusiasm.
As much as you’re dwelling on her reasons for breaking up with you (your words sound very much like the denial stage of grief), you should be thankful that she ended things when she came to the conclusion that she wasn’t in love with you. Better to be heartbroken and on your own than in a relationship with someone who doesn’t return your love.
4. This is not a question, I just noticed your annoyance with wordy e-mails in the Sexbag. I’m guessing it’s because people see it as a forum where they can air personal secrets that they want to share but are afraid to. Especially since you’ve already got them started sharing personal secrets. Also, sorry about this wordy e-mail in the Sexbag.
Thanks,
-Jon
And I’m sorry you got dumped. Now start moving forward instead of looking back.
Caveman,
Okay, so my girl dumped me last night. This morning, I woke up, and I started having this fantasy about going to her place and taking her by force. I usually wake up to morning wood and about 5 minutes of fantasizing about something, but today it was…that.
Is there something wrong with me?
Anon
Um. No, probably not. Just don’t go acting on that impulse, okay? Prison is unkind to convicted rapists.
Dear KSK,
Sex: So I recently got dumped
Jesus! Was there a sale at the New Boyfriend Warehouse or something?
by the only girl I ever got to have sex with, and it was a lot of sex. She was on birth control and that was our only method of contraception, I never used a condom with her. I really enjoyed not having to mess with and pay for condoms,
Condoms: WAY cheaper than a lifetime supply of Valtrex.
and I think it feels awesome to just be able to leave it in and finish inside. So since I’ve never actually used one, am I going to be disappointed in the sensation when the next girl I get with makes me wear one? Did I start at the top and now have to settle for less in terms of contraception?
Okay, you’re new to this, so I’ll try to be understanding instead of dismissive. To worry about the loss of sensation a condom causes BEFORE YOU’VE EVER EVEN HAD SEX WITH ONE is getting a little ahead of yourself. It’s kind of like the people who call Megan Fox unattractive. “Oh, she has weird thumbs.” “Her tattoos are stupid.” Oh yeah? Well why don’t you go ahead and pick up Megan Fox’s twin who has perfect thumbs and no tattoos?
My point being, sex is great. Does sex without a condom feel better? Yes. Are you needlessly and preemptively worrying about a reality you should embrace? Also yes.
Football: Did the NFL really fuck up the draft’s bearability by changing the time format around for this year? I think so.
-Mike T.
Yup. Instead of a lovely all-day affair of drinking on a Saturday in April, the NFL’s going shoot its wad with first-round excitement on Thursday night. Then we get the “afterbirth” rounds on the weekend. Yippee.
Dear KSK,
My office has 6 people in it. One of them is an attractive, 22 year old (I’m 29), unattached, lady sports fan who also listens to awesome music. We seem to get along really well. Because of all that I’d like to ask her out (I’m reasonably sure she’d say yes). But holy shit I cannot fathom the awkwardness if this goes badly. Thoughts?
I’ve never been a fan of dating in the work place, but then my work place for most of my adult life has been the Marine Corps and the Internet. It’s not like I was a talent scout at a modeling agency.
Whatever. Go for it. I’m sick of trying to give good advice. Go out there and dance with the devil, people!
As I’ve gotten older I’ve started to equate the ending of each football season, fantasy or otherwise, with me being one year closer to death. This makes me enjoy fantasy football less. Please help.
-Sean
Focus on the passing of the seasons. That way you get reminded of being closer to your death every three months, which should lessen the once-a-year fear you get from football ending. You pussy.
Dear KSK,
pseudo-sex: There’s this girl in my office who I’m friends with, and it’s clear that she wants to be more than just friends. however, i’m not at all attracted to her, even when I’m drunk. i enjoy talking with her at work and stuff, but its gotten to the point where if i see her at a bar i just leave to avoid her sad drunken stares. Is there any way that i can make it 100% clear to her that im not interested, while not leaving her self-worth in complete tatters?
Yes: keep not hooking up with her. Don’t overthink this one, Stephen Hawking.
fantasy football: if you have the 2nd overall pick in your fantasy draft who are you taking?
thanks a million,
tim
Assuming Chris Johnson goes #1? I’d probably stick with Adrian Peterson. I can put up with seven fumbles over the course of the year if he runs for 1500 yards and scores 14 touchdowns.
Hey Guys,
Sex – I wrote to you last year back in June(ish – the archives seem to be missing a lot of the mailbags from around then).
That’s our fault. We have like three or four different tags for the mailbag, and I can never remember which one I used the week before.
I was the one who’d just started dating the crazy girl who was offering threesomes and anal, you told me to run as fast as I could. I didn’t take your advice,
We’re always happy to help!
and long story short it turns out she’s not crazy after all. She just really liked me and her uncertainty about how I felt toward her led to her temporarily act that way (only when we were apart). I never did get that threesome, but I have earned my brown-belt.
You fucked a girl in the ass, okay? Save the douche lingo for your frat brothers.
Anyway the reason I’m writing to you this week is because we’ve begun looking at apartments together, with the goal of moving in together within the next few months. This will be my first experience living with a girlfriend for any extended amount of time, so are there any little tips or tricks I should know about how to make living with a woman as smooth and successful an experience as possible?
I’ve never done the moving-in-together thing, so I asked KSK’s co-habitators what they recommended… and nobody really said anything. Except for Unsilent Majority, who says you should “volunteer for a simple chore or two like taking out the trash and recycling. At least then it seems like you’re making an effort.” Personally, I’ve heard that separate sinks in the bathroom is a nice luxury to have.
Anyway, it doesn’t really matter what we recommend. Your woman will train you, and you’ll adapt if you want to survive.
Football – Who will win the Julius Peppers sweepstakes (besides Julius Peppers)?
-DA
What, you want some clueless guessing? Go read Peter King. Or better yet, just ask him on Twitter. Tell him @drewmagary sent you.


“back to what the Asian lady in the video said”
Did you actually have to mention she is Asian?
If she was white, would you say “back to what the white lady said” ?
racist.
Megan Fox is extremely pretty! I extremely adore her.
Thanks for the coverage – http://www.makelovenotporn.com saw a lot of traffic from your post! I should explain that the site is very nascent at the moment – I put it up on no money a year ago, but the response has been so positive (from male and female, young and old, all around the world – it gets hits from 181 countries) that I am now actively seeking funding to build and develop it out into something more far-reaching and effective, which will be more able to embrace some of the nuances cited by commenters above. (Yes, pornified behavior is a two-way street, and I’ve talked to young guys who find girls defaulting to it too in ways they would prefer they didn’t.) I have particular plans for http://www.makelovenotporn.tv, so watch this space! :)
The video has very valid points, at the same time, I think it targets the idiots within that group. I agree that is the primary form of sexual education, but I disagree with every dude trying to cum on a chicks face because he saw it in porn. On the shaved thing, yea I guess I do prefer it, but as long as there is a landscaping plan down there, I don’t mind. Of course I shave myself, so maybe I am just out of touch with my 20-year old douche bag crowd.
Of course she doesn’t point out that what are females form of sexual education, which is what, cosmo? I just think the two groups are so far apart that when it doesn’t happen everyone is wondering why it didn’t go how they thought it would.
Nina Hartley is wearing Granny Lady Jeans? Did she get them from the same shop as Obama? (not intending to slur him)
And thanks to the posters who pointed out that it is Janine on the left (Jesse James left her for Bullock? feh!).
I too thought it was Mariska Hargitay… because Mariska probably has access to the NBC wardrobe dept to scam the Seinfeld Pirate shirt! WTF – is that what happens to old porn stars… they have pics taken of themselves looking like Target ladies!
And which Target should I check to see them? Northridge or Sherman Oaks?
@DA
If 50% of all marriages end in divorce then 75-80% of all live-ins are doomed too. Make sure the lease is either in your name or hers only! Don’t do the sign together thing. If it doesn’t work out, and it’s in her name you can bolt. If it’s in yours, you can pack her stuff and put it on the curb and change the locks. But if you rent a place you can’t afford by yourself and both sign that lease, then you will have BIG problems at break up time.
Here endeth the lesson!
“What the hell? Is porn this guy’s only reference for sex?”
-My ex after I came to her apt. with my dong in a pizza box.
Slash is a woman.
/scratches head… always thought that KSK would appeal to women about as much as the 3 Stooges do.
Well, I guess that explains the consistent insightfulness of her posts.
I got a job at the company my wife worked and at first we were all “woo hoo, just think of the gas money we’ll save!” It took less than a month for her to say “i love you, but we need to drive separately.” Having to depend on the other person’s schedule, morning routine, etc. was bad enough but the dealbreaker was the drive home. What used to be a half hour to unwind so you could talk about work like a normal person with your spouse became immediately complaining about work. Piratesloth is 100% correct. Everyone needs alone time.
Years later a friend of mine was being hit on by a guy in her dept. Despite everyone’s advice she finally started dating the dipshit. Once they got to the stage of staying at each other’s place every night – i.e. never being able to escape each other, the relationship was doomed. Well, that and since they were around each other so much she figured out that he was constantly attempting to cheat. Kinda hard to cover that up when she has access to your phone and computer (the aforementioned dipshittery).
Bottom line, if you’re going to date a coworker make it clear from the start that you will not be joined at the hip and will spend plenty of nights apart. That, or one of you has to quit within six months.
My advice for living with a woman: if you still have any white underwear, throw it out now. Purchase blacks and navies and things of the sort. You’ll probably end up having your laundry mixed… and do you really want her to see your shit stains? Also, when you do laundry, be prepared for period blood splatter. I’m sad to report it’s inevitable and it’s best if you just accept it and don’t think about it too much.
@Sean:
During my first job out of school, a coworker/mentor said to me “Don’t get your meat where you get your bread.” And he was 100% correct: think about all the co-worker gossip you already hear, and the attendant loss of respect it generates. Do you want to be subject to that?
Ape, you’re starting to sound like a professional counselor, man. You gotta be careful.
/facepalmfacepalmfacepalmfacepalmfacepalmfacepalmfacepalmfacepalm
1. The video was interesting. I’m sorta shocked guys in their 20′s are sleeping with her. But to each his own.
2. Letter # 1 – to quote Friends: ” WE WERE ON A BREAK “!
3. Letter # 2 – Seeking ” closure ” is like the female orgasm. Or the clitoris. You may or may not find it. Wait, bad analogy. Suck it up and move on.
4. Letter # 3 – As CC said, ” Rape fantasy ok “. Rape reality = YOUR ass is a buffet.
5. Letter # 4 – Condoms. Better to have one and not need it than need one and not have it.
6. Letter # 5 – As a military guy, I can only say, watch your p’s & q’s. Are you equitable in status around the office? IOW – you’re not her boss – right? If that is the case – NO, NO, NO.
7. Letter # 6 – Move in guy. Holy crap. Let me get this straight – her way of showing ” interest ” is to offer a 3-some and freaky sex? Guess I’m from another era where a look or a touch did the trick. Moving in /on:
a) MONEY. Up front. Oh and let me caveat this by saying, what happens when one of you goes unemployed for a few weeks /months ? Do you ” like ” her that much to support her ass? From personal experience I can unequivocably say – DO NOT GO DOWN THAT ROAD. (kicks self,punches self, hits self in head with hammer).
b) Understand that dating (exclusively) is like hiring a manager in baseball. Sooner or later – it’s going to end. Either you give them a lifetime contract OR you fire their ass.
c) I am firmly convinced women operate with a “dating timeline ” in their head.
Date 1 – interview
Date 2 – Fun date / follow up interview
Date 3 – Her friends / their take
Date 4 – Your friends / her take
Date 5 – Romantic dinner – sleepover / sex
That was month(s) 1-3.
Around this same time she mentions that she wants to be “exclusive “. Congrats, you have just moved to the next level.
Months 3-9: lather, rinse, repeat. What others have referred to as the ” honeymoon ” period.
Around month 9 she talks moving in.
Around month 12 – the ‘m’ word.
Agian, if confused, use the baseball manager analogy.
And I’m out.
But I don’t rule all vaginas, just mine, so… sorry.
Write your Congressman, people. Slash for Vagina Czar.
RE Big Black Richard Says:
@Slash — “Big Vagina Echo Chamber” is going to be the name of my next band.
yeah, right? Says:
@Big Black Richard: Not to mention my new fantasy baseball team.
Glad to be of service.
RE boredatwork Says:
“Slash is the reason I am torn about women. Older women aren’t stupid, but they also aren’t perky and firm. Nice body? Or adult mind and sensibilities?”
I’m still pretty perky and firm (also, a reminder: Halle Berry is going to be 44 in August). And some older women ARE stupid. It isn’t about age (though, granted, hopefully age, ie, experience, confers some “wisdom”), it’s about common sense. And learning from mistakes. Some people refuse to, they make the same ones over and over and then ask everyone else what they’re doing wrong when whatever they’re doing ends up in a clusterfuck.
RE Sweater Kittens Inspector Says:
“Also, once you’ve moved in together, that anal will stop. Then the blowjobs will stop. Then the sex will stop. You’ll be back in six months lamenting that all the sex has disappeared. Just like every other poor schmuck who got married/moved in with a girl. Girls will only have hot, wild monkey sex for as long as it takes to snare you. Once they have snared you, they stop. End of line.”
“This is 100% true. Every word of it.” and /God help us all, he’s right
I’ve heard/read this enough times that, if not universally true, it’s at least very very common. See, some women are really focused on this fucked-up marriage-kids timetable, and every time there’s some news story about how women’s fertility falls off a cliff after the age of 30, it panics a whole new group of women (who weren’t already panicky) about how all their eggs are shriveling up with every passing day and if they don’t hurry up and get a sperm donor RIGHT NOW, they’ll die alone and childless or, if they have a kid one moment after age 30, it’ll be a Palin. So I’m guessing a lot of women feel that they have to go along with any sex their prospective sperm donor wants, no matter how distasteful it may be to her, to get him to “close the deal,” and then once she gets a baby up in there, there’s no reason to ever have sex again, or at least not all the awesome shit you were getting before. Yes, it’s sad. I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s wrong to go all out before you’re married so that your husband thinks he’s getting some kind of nympho, only to shut it down completely after the wedding/baby. But I don’t rule all vaginas, just mine, so… sorry. And there should be some understanding that having and taking care of a kid is tiring. And takes time. And has some effect on your hormones. Pretty much the trifecta of desire-killing factors.
I don’t know what it is about those pics of Nina Hartley and Jeanine, but I think I need a few minutes alone.
And why is it true about women and the sex stopping once ‘they have you’? All men bitch about, and that exact thing was a huge contributor to my divorce. Why do women do this shit?
“Also, once you’ve moved in together, that anal will stop. Then the blowjobs will stop. Then the sex will stop. You’ll be back in six months lamenting that all the sex has disappeared. Just like every other poor schmuck who got married/moved in with a girl. Girls will only have hot, wild monkey sex for as long as it takes to snare you. Once they have snared you, they stop. End of line.”
“This is 100% true. Every word of it.”
/God help us all, he’s right
Dear Diary:
Millions of women on the internet like to do ATM, why can’t I find just one here in East Nowhere, USA?
Good work CC. Finding a pic of Nina Hartley and Janine both clothed must have taken 2 days on google search.
@tim
Just tell you aren’t interested in dating her. Yes, she will be hurt and yes she will be upset, but she will move on a lot faster then if you never draw the line and say “I am not interested in you that way”
Will it change your relationship with her? Yes, but you can have it both ways.
I much rather a guy just be honest with me, then tip toe around whether I am going to be upset or not, yes I am going to be upset you can’t avoid it, you can just delay it or make it worse
What’s a “condom”?
/has three kids under the age of 5
Slash is the reason I am torn about women. Older women aren’t stupid, but they also aren’t perky and firm. Nice body? Or adult mind and sensibilities?
Fuck, this 30′s and divorced shit is confusing.
valtrex is covered under most health plans in canada.
I’m just saying.
“I’ve never been a fan of dating in the work place, but then my work place for most of my adult life has been the Marine Corps and the Internet.”
Have you SEEN the chicks that work at the internet? It’s all ass-to-mouth 3-way cumswapping and eel bukakke. Those girls are NUTS.
DA: I’ll +1 Anthony’s comments. Also be honest with yourself about your bad habits, cause after money, they’re the biggest reasons for fights. Are you the type to leave the TV on in a room that you just walked out? Where do you put stinky workout clothes when you come back from the gym? All the things you don’t think about living alone have to be in your mind when you’re living with someone else.
To all the people who got dumped: Let. it. go. There’s no statement from the ex that’s going to make it less sense. There never is. Just be glad you were lucky to have it end before it got serious. Work on your own selves, get better and go back out looking for the next rollercoaster.
@Big Black Richard: Not to mention my new fantasy baseball team.
@Slash — “Big Vagina Echo Chamber” is going to be the name of my next band.
I haven’t gotten around to reading the entire mailbag yet but I just want to say I don’t care if Nina Hartley is old enough to be my grandma at this point, I’d still do her. That skank probably has forgotten more tricks and moves than twenty ordinary girls will ever learn.
/Was also the best part of BOOGIE NIGHTS
//Would definitely triple wrap my jimmy
So looking at the calendar and reading about all the breakups in our beloved mailbag this week and considering some of these letters are a day or two old.. Do you think it’s a coincidence that this is happening and we are only a couple of weeks removed from Valentines Day?
I told you to forget the flowers and buy the damned vibrator already.
You kids never listen.
Lofty advice as always, Slash. Cheers.
@ NMC said: “Moving in with your not-crazy, anal loving girl : It doesn’t matter what you do, she’s going to drive you nuts, and you’ll put up with all her shit because you want to fuck her more.”
Bravo! Short and Concise. Apart from mistaking CC for Ape, you were spot on.
I lost 3 great relationships by moving in with them. Many great suggestions have already been mentioned with figuring out the money and the space. My last cohabitation ended because she started paying less and less of her obligation. Then either her or her 7 year old son was there and I lost my private masturbation and drinking time.
As soon as you start to resent moving in together, it’s too late. Resentment will never die.
And it absolutely will not stop until your relationship is dead!
/channeling our Governator
I’ve always believed that Maude Lebowski should be giving sex advice. Good for her for finally stepping up.
Just one bit of concern for DA. It seems to me that you have been dating this girl for about 8 or 9 months, and that you may still be in the “honeymoon” phase of the relationship. I did that too (she moved in with me after about the same amount of time dating as you) although it was only for 3 months over the summer. I was crazy about her prior to the move-in and, during the time we lived together, we still had sex nearly every day–that was the good part… the only good part. Long story short, I cannot tell you how glad I was to get her out of there at the end of the summer because I found out who she really was, and I couldn’t stand that person. Just make sure that you’re really ready for the commitment and what you might find out. The money thing is a big issue, so are the chores. Having someone sleep in your bed until noon everyday and NEVER EVEN LOOK FOR A JOB, OR DO A DISH, OR EVEN CLEAN UP HER OWN SHIT, is brutal. Having said that, I wish you the best of luck and hope your lady is better than mine was.
I gotta disagree with the inevitability of the “moving-in-together-equals-less-sex” equation. When I moved in with my then girlfriend/now wife it was the first time either of us hadn’t had other roommates — we were a little young, just a year out of college. Anyway, it was a revelation: the place was ours and no roommates or roommate friends were going to be hanging out or coming and going as they pleased. It is more than a little bit awkward to want to do something like, er, take a shower with your girlfriend on the weekend when you know that at any moment 4 guys with five cases of beer might be showing up at your place. At a place of our own? Not a problem, as was repeatedly demonstrated.
Anyway, moving in together with just the two of us was the best thing that ever happened to our sex life, and, frankly, to my life in general. The posters above who stress the importance of you two being clear re the logistics of living together (ie money, bills, chores etc) are making very valid points, but the most important thing of all is that you both are very, very much into each other. If that is the case you guys will be fine. Good luck man.
@Needs More Cheerleaders:
I’ve been living with her for three years. We still have hot monkey sex. Lots of hot monkey sex. Hot monkey sex until I push her away because I’m too sore to take any more.
Blowjobs have dropped off, that’s true. But it’s mostly because she’s so quick to drop panties.
/yeah, i need to lock her down
Breakup guy: Yeah, your letter was both realistic (ie, not filled with bragging in the guise of soliciting advice) and kinda informative. I guess.
Basically, you’re asking us to explain why your girlfriend dumped you, but we’re not gonna be able to answer that. Sounds like she pretty much covered it. She said all the things someone says when they’re trying to nicely say, “I can’t stand to be around you anymore.” As for her “pestering” you now, I have no explanation for that (unless she just wants to see if she’s already been replaced).
Just FYI, there is no “code” to be broken when dealing with women and there is no template to follow that works for all of them, just as there is not one for all men (other than to put out regularly). Men and women don’t speak different languages. Women aren’t better at “communicating” than men are, they just think they are. There’s a big vagina echo chamber where most women sit around and talk about how awful men are at communicating and relationships. Many women seem to think that “relationship” means they talk and everybody else listens. As a female I can tell you with certainty that comes from 40-some years of life experience, women suck at “communicating” every bit as much as men do. They just do it differently. Men “communicate” by not talking. Or by fucking around on you. Or by calling you a bitch. Women “communicate” by yapping and never letting you get a word in edegwise, while whining that you are “unsupportive” by not agreeing with everything they say. And they also call you a bitch, only they do it behind your back. Because saying it to your face would be rude.
Great efforts this week CC, I love the edge.
And in my mind the “popped collar” crowd invented the term “brown belt” three years after they ran “going to brown town” into the ground. Which got me thinking, do rappers ever mention anal, because that is where douchebags like to steal a lot of their material?
Janine Lindemuller shares a striking resemblance to Mariska Hargitay, face-wise.
Nina Hartley has one of the all-time most underrated ghetto booties ever.
And in all seriousness, moving in with a girlfriend works in this way: don’t act like a fucking retarded college kid living with other dudes. Pick up your shit, do the dishes sometimes, and you will be fine.
“Focus on the passing of the seasons. That way you get reminded of being closer to your death every three months, which should lessen the once-a-year fear you get from football ending. You pussy.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
RE Dave (DA) Says:
“Thanks for the tips together, guys. PS – the brownbelt reference came from someone else’s letter in a previous KSK mailbag (possibly multiple), where literally no one took offense or even commented on the use of the term.”
OK, fine, but FYI, anyone who uses it sounds like tool. Grownups don’t really care that your girlfriend let you stick it in her ass. We don’t need updates on your progress in the category of “fucking an asshole when you have a perfectly good pussy to fuck instead.” We don’t care.
I’m Jon (breakup guy #1).
That’samare: I wasn’t pestering EX, exactly. She wanted to know if I had anything to say right after she broke up with me, so I asked her a couple questions, for the same reason I sent the questions in to the mailbag. I want to know what I can do better next time. I don’t miss EX enough to want to call her anymore, but I don’t like failing at things. Even though I’m young and my relationships are supposed to fail.
I’m sure that it was a weird and awkward way to go with it, but I’m in a bunch of teaching classes this semester, and teaching students are taught to live for evaluations.
Actually, my mother was wondering why I didn’t ask EX more questions than I did.
Ironically, EX is now pestering me. She hangs out in a building where she doesn’t have any classes between my classes. She tried to make an excuse to see me. I was suitably annoyed.
Slash: Did this one qualify as informative and realistic? (See? Teaching students live for evaluations!)
Sean – In general, I’d disagree with dating someone from work (I’m also in HR so go figure). However, where I work there are a few couples, married or just dating, and it doesn’t seem to be an issue so apparently it’s possible. Somethings to consider first: Do you work have to work closely together on projects or day-to-day stuff? Also, by same office, is it something like tech support/customer service where you can work separately and have little dealings with each other or more of an office where somethings you do affect what she doesand vice-versa? If so, I’d avoid that. If it ends badly, it’s going to be awkward. And the obvious, if either of you has a management role over the other one, no way, that’s a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Also, be sure your company doesn’t have a policy regarding inter-office dating. Not a lot do but in the day and age of multi-million dollar harassment suits, more companies have put those in place.
Anthony is spot on. Especially about the money thing. People can be completely simpatico on politics, religion, and all manner of controversial subjects, but be completely at odds when it comes to money. When I ran into this, I actually created a spreadsheet breaking down our incomes, and made it so we contribute the same percentage exactly. Maybe 50-50 will work for you two. Whatever. But FIGURE IT OUT BEFOREHAND. For a hour or two’s worth of extra-dorky Excel, it avoided untold amounts of resentment.
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HA! I was about to say the same thing Slash.
Mike T. -
I actually have no problems or complaints whatsoever with wearing a condom, and I think it has something to do with the fact that for all of my life I exclusively masturbated through my boxers/shorts. You just get used to some sort of barrier being there while in action. Pulling out is, IMHO, a lot less fun than wearing a condom and not having to pull out. Don’t get me wrong, the no condom/no pulling out/shes on the pill sex you were having before is still the best, but condoms aren’t the worst thing in the world.
Thanks for the tips together, guys. PS – the brownbelt reference came from someone else’s letter in a previous KSK mailbag (possibly multiple), where literally no one took offense or even commented on the use of the term.
That TED website is also awesome, if anybody wants to check it out.
@CC
AND YOUR TYLER DURDEN WEBSITE IS FULL OF USELESS GOSSIP!
Cohabitation – What everyone else said about money, but also accept someone might be “short” one month and figure out how crazy this is going to make you. (And this is a two way street, you never know when someone is going to lose a job, decide to go back to school, or end up being a complete deadbeat.)
Split the difference on the thermostat, find out if she’s going to want to stab you if you sleep past 10am (or even noon) on a Saturday, and I cannot emphasis this last one enough, lots of bathroom candles.
“Brown belt” sounds like the lamest video game achievement in Leisure Suit Larry ever.
/lived with two guys before breaking up with them, held off on living with final serious boyfriend for two years, lived together three years before finally getting married.
Once again, the KSK mailbag intro confirming what I’ve suspected for awhile. Porn IS a lot of people’s only reference for sex. Which is sad.
RE length of letters: speaking only for myself, I don’t necessarily mind a somewhat lengthy explanation as long as it is a) entertaining or 2) informative and realistic. But if it’s a bunch of shit about how hot your girlfriend is and what a stud you are and you’re writing in because you want to know if it’s possible to be too good at fucking, then just don’t bother sending in a question at all. Save it for Twitter or Facebook or whatever.
And the “brown belt” reference is the height of douchetardery.
What Anthony said is pretty spot on for moving in with someone. Open communication about everything is a key to getting along, this includes things like having alone time. Hell, my ex would always try to have a conversation with me thru the bathroom door when I’d go in to use it; saying it was the only time she could get my attention. She wouldn’t let me have those alone times, so it grinded on me until I blew up on her about it. I wasn’t right to do that, as we’d never had those kinds of communication.
The next go around was better, as I learned my lessons, grew up, and made those lines of communication a priority. It benefited the both of us. Too bad that next girlfriend just turned out to be crazy in the long run.
Good luck with the moving in. I hope it works out.
I’ve learned my lesson though, no more girlfriends.
@Sean: Don’t date where you work. Make friends with her and go for her attractive friends.
@Reggie Bush apologist: Your wife is a hypocrite and probably did a lot more than you did. She’s probably punishing you for her crimes.
@ Jon: Stop harassing your ex. Maybe she was annoyed by you pestering her
@Tim: Just tell the broad you are flattered, but, you don’t date where you work.
@DA: Having been married and have lived with girls before, I can tell you that most girls are fucking slobs to live with. Wanna know how they can spend so much time looking all pretty and shit? They don’t clean their fucking apartment.
Nobody will win the Julius Peppers sweepstakes except for Julius Peppers.
Good advice from Anthony…especially the part about privacy. If you’re ready to move in together, that means you’re ready to have absolutely zero secrets from her. It’s not a bad thing, but just make sure you’re ready for that.
And to fast-forward, I’m 100% in favor of cohabitating at least 6-12 months before marriage. God will understand.
“hot piece of skirt”
Thanks Dean Martin.
Ape, you’re starting to sound like a professional counselor, man.
Sigh. Three and a half years we’ve been writing this site. And still…
@Sean: The best call is to try and ask to do something that wouldn’t seem like a date and go from there. If you fail, you can at least back pedal.
That is, she doesn’t mind doing the dishes and *I* fucking hate doing them. Sorry.
@DA: As someone who lives relatively harmoniously with his girlfriend, let me offer a few tips:
1) If you can afford it, have two bathrooms. It makes things much easier.
2) Make sure you each have some time during the week when you’re alone–everyone needs “me” time, and it’s even more important when you’re living with each other. Don’t get your feelings hurt when she says she needs “me” time
3) The chore thing is a good idea: volunteer to have one or two things around the house that are “your” chores. I do the laundry (because I don’t mind) and she does the dishes (because she doesn’t mind and FUCKING HATE doing the dishes).
4) **MOST IMPORTANT** FIGURE OUT MONEY STUFF BEFORE YOU MOVE IN. Seriously: how are you going to pay rent: with one check, or two? Who pays for what utilities/bills? Are you going to split that, too? We pay rent with two checks (because our landlord doesn’t mind) in the same envelope; I pay electric and she pays cable (they’re about the same); we switch off paying for groceries, and we are both totally honest about how much money we have at any given time. Your sense of privacy will go out the window, and you have to expect and give total honesty.
5) Your sex life will probably taper off. Not as much as it would if you got married and definitely not as much as if you have kids, but it’s not as balls-to-the-wall as it first was.
That being said, I love cohabitating and my girlfriend is awesome. I’ve done it before with another girl and it didn’t work out, but neither of us was ready. Make sure you’re ready to share not just a bed or Valentine’s day, but also all the hard adult stuff (work, bills, space) as well.
And I’m not kidding: figure out your money situation before you ever move in. Good luck to you.
“Also, once you’ve moved in together, that anal will stop. Then the blowjobs will stop. Then the sex will stop. You’ll be back in six months lamenting that all the sex has disappeared. Just like every other poor schmuck who got married/moved in with a girl. Girls will only have hot, wild monkey sex for as long as it takes to snare you. Once they have snared you, they stop. End of line.”
This is 100% true. Every word of it.
Ape, you’re starting to sound like a professional counselor, man. You gotta be careful.
Guys who got dumped : It sucks. Screw a hot piece of skirt and get over it.
Condom dude : Try jacking off while wearing a condom a few times, so you can get a little used to it. Also : Screwing girls without a condom, in a day and age when they’re likely to have fucked 30 guys in high school and another 10 all at once at that ‘awesome party I went to’, is asking to get herpes or worse. (Don’t get all fucking mad, ladies, I’m not saying ALL of you are like that, but it does seem there’s a large segment of the female population that goes around boning everything that gets hard.)
Dating in the workplace : Here’s my sort of second hand experience with that. I’ve never dated in the workplace, though I’ve had offers. Mostly because I figured it’d be very awkward if things did go wrong. But I worked with a guy and a girl who lived together. And as the months went on, the stress of NEVER getting a break from each other really started to wear on them both.
Imagine. You’ve had a fight with your partner. You sorta make up, but you really kinda want to stew for a bit longer. So you go to work, and have the whole day to stew and calm down. They went to work and had to sit opposite from each other in the same department. So they stayed angry. Then they took their work shit back home with them, in addition to still being angry at each other.
I quit that job before anything really happened, but with the way they were snipping at each other by the end, I don’t think it lasted. They were happy as shit a few months before.
To me, it seems like it’s not a smart thing to do.
Moving in with your not-crazy, anal loving girl : It doesn’t matter what you do, she’s going to drive you nuts, and you’ll put up with all her shit because you want to fuck her more.
Also, once you’ve moved in together, that anal will stop. Then the blowjobs will stop. Then the sex will stop. You’ll be back in six months lamenting that all the sex has disappeared. Just like every other poor schmuck who got married/moved in with a girl. Girls will only have hot, wild monkey sex for as long as it takes to snare you. Once they have snared you, they stop. End of line.
Who the hell says “Brown Belt”? What a fucking fag.
I’ve got a lot of respect for Nina Hartley. I think she’s sucked dick on camera in 5 different decades now. She’s like the George Blanda of facials.
Wow, someone’s grumpy today! Doesn’t seem to affect the funny, though.
“back to what the Asian lady in the video said.”
I’ve got a couple of windows open, so was it, “Cum on my face” or “fishhook my asshole while mouthraping me?”