I Don’t Want to Hear Anyone Else Badmouthing Marvin Harrison’s Gun
Watch out! It’s a gun AND a flashlight!
A common problem with most writers — especially journalists, who are the kind of people who go into war zones without weapons because it wouldn’t be ethical — is that, without mincing words, they’re fucking pussies. This isn’t generally a problem when they write about what they know. But when lifelong pacifists try to tackle the subject of instruments of death, they sow fear and hysteria instead of educating themselves and fostering intelligent discussion.
Take, for example, Mike Freeman’s hatchet job at CBS Sportsline. Let’s do this FJM-style:
Marvin Harrison allegedly owns a Belgian Fabrique Nationale 5.7 firearm. Previously when I thought Belgian, I thought waffles. No longer. They apparently make both delicious pastries and potent little weapons.
To anyone who knows anything about firearms, this is like beginning your column with the lede, “Hey everyone! I’m ignorant!” FN Herstal not only owns the famous American arms companies Winchester and Browning, it also happens to make outstanding, reliable weapons that save American lives every day.
Specifically, FN makes what the American military dubs the M249 Squad Automatic Weapon (5.56mm) and the M240 medium machine gun (7.62mm). Every fourth straight-leg infantryman in the Marine Corps carries a SAW, and there aren’t words enough for how important it is that even the smallest units have a reliable and relatively light weapon that provides withering and accurate automatic fire.
The larger M240 comes in several variants that allows it to be used as either a ground-mounted defensive weapon or, much more delightfully, as an automatic sniper rifle coaxially mounted to the main gun on the M1 Abrams tank. The M240 is reliable, accurate, and breaks down quickly into about seven pieces that can be cleaned and reassembled easily. That last part doesn’t mean much unless you’ve ever worked with the American military’s previous medium machine gun, the M60. The M60 has approximately 4000 pieces, at least four dozen of which are the size of a staple. I fucking hate the M60.
Point is, FN makes spectacular weapons that our service men and women use every day, and anyone who doesn’t know this but likes to blurt out things like “Support our troops!” needs to have their asshole sealed with a yellow ribbon car sticker.
“In November (2005) the Homeland Security Department issued an ‘Officer Safety Alert’ regarding the (BFN 5.7) with the headline ‘body armor defeating handgun,’” reported the Associated Press. “The alert said the Trumbull, Conn., police department had seized such a pistol and noted that its bullets were ‘advertised as being able to penetrate 48 layers of Kevlar at 50 meters.’”
I guess now the police will have to put on that 49th layer of Kevlar. Listen, it’s okay to be troubled by scary guns. But the FN Five-seven is a pistol, and no matter what John Woo movies have led you to believe, it is damn hard to hit your intended target with a pistol.
I’m not a great shot with the pistol, but I’m better than average. From 25 yards away, taking slow, carefully aimed shots, I can just about always hit a man-sized target. Hitting something from 50 meters away? Forget about it. This isn’t to say that from 50 meters a pistol isn’t dangerous, but writers toss out these factoids without understanding the capabilities of the weapon. For all intents and purposes, a cop wearing a bullet-proof vest is just as fucked from a bullet that can pierce 48 layers of Kevlar as he would be from the basic armor-piercing round.
Why exactly would a civilian need such a weapon?
To take down Ironman?
I’m not here to stand up for the Second Amendment or to gauge the armor capabilities of fictional characters, so let’s move on.
From the website enemyforces.com: “The “Five-seveN” Self-loading Pistol is a new generation and conception weapon. Technically it is classified as an ordinary submachine gun but tactically it is a Personal Defense Weapon. To remind: the PD Weapons are mainly used by drivers, staff personnel, artillery crew, and other second line soldiers …”
Artillery crew? Apparently Harrison was preparing to do battle with a Romulan warbird.
Again, Freeman sees a military term and flaunts his ignorance by making a cheap joke. A cheap, unfunny joke. A cheap, unfunny joke that I think references fucking Star Trek.
“PD weapon” is just a fancy word for “pistol.” It’s a small firearm for fighting people who have jobs behind the lines doing things that require them to do the essential warfighting jobs that aren’t kicking down doors or rooting Viet Cong out of tunnels. It’s a way for them to defend themselves as a last resort without having to carry a big bulky rifle around everywhere. That’s it. It has nothing to do with Romulans.
And: “Cartridge recoil power is threefold lower than the standard NATO 5.56 x 45 mm (.223 Rem) cartridges.”
It’s not often you’re going to see the words “NATO” and “Marvin Harrison” in the same sentence.
It’s not often you see “clownfucker” and “Mike Freeman” in the same sentence, but there they are together, so I must have made some kind of point.
“It doesn’t take much imagination to see this cartridge changing the direction of law enforcement weaponry in the new millennium,” wrote American Handgunner about the BFN. “The Five-seveN might well serve as standard issue for officers in a crowded urban setting and the P-90 could be used by special teams and thus retain commonality of ammunition.”
And by “special teams” I’m assuming they don’t mean punt return coverage.
Get it? I know he’s being pretty subtle here, but I believe the point he’s trying to make is that military and law enforcement agencies typically have different terminology and equipment than football teams.
Does it bother anyone that an NFL player allegedly owns a gun in which its main attraction to potential buyers is the fact its ammunition can penetrate body armor? Body armor most times worn by police?
Don’t get your guntotin’ panties in a bunch. It’s just a question.
And please stop waving the Second Amendment in my face like it’s a ticket to a Springsteen concert. Nobody’s trying to take your gat away.
The only question that should be relevant is whether Marvin Harrison has broken a law. You don’t have to approve or disapprove of the Second Amendment to accept that it’s incorporated into American law. If Harrison owns the gun legally, that’s that. Why is a man — a guy who until this point has always gotten credit for being a class act and a quiet team player — now being accused (obliquely) of having the intent to murder police?
You call me an anti-gun media weenie. I see that and raise you Columbine (13 dead, 23 wounded), the University of Texas massacre (14 dead, 31 wounded), Virginia Tech (32 dead), Northern Illinois (five dead, 18 wounded), the Red Lake High School massacre (seven dead) and the Jonesboro school massacre (five dead, nine wounded).
Just to name a few school shootings of innocent women and kids.
Little-known fact: all of these atrocities were committed by NFL players with a single handgun.
Seriously, anti-gun media weenie, how is this relevant to Marvin Harrison owning a handgun? What the hell is the point of this column? Is it against Harrison? Guns? The FN Five-seven? The FN Five-seven’s ammunition? I honestly have no idea.
But I digress.
This has nothing to do with the Second Amendment or someone trying to pry the gun from your cold, dead hands. So cease with the phony, false choices.
Is he talking to me? With whom is he arguing? What are the phony, false choices?
Keep your firearms. I target shoot. I’m ex-Army (basic training at Ft. Sill in Oklahoma where I was the worst shooter of an M-16 probably in that base’s history).
HOLY LIVING FUCK. Please GOD tell me that he was feigning ignorance all this time. I mean, I’ve seen the daycare that the Army passes off as basic training, but I never imagined that someone who was in the service could be so ignorant about firearms. Outside the Air Force, that is.
This is more about athletes, guns and their continued mistaken impression that owning one automatically means you’re better protected.
GASP! It’s… it’s a thesis statement! Almost! And only three-quarters of the way through the column! Truly, expository writing at its finest. *Ring ring* Better answer the phone, Mike. That’s the New Yorker calling.
No charges have been filed against Harrison and it’s wholly possible the Indianapolis wide receiver had nothing to do with a shooting outside of his bar, Playmakers, located in Harrison’s hometown of Philadelphia.
“Okay, so he might be innocent, buuuuuut…”
The fact Harrison owns that weapon and possibly many others prove what NFL players have told me in the past. Several have estimated that 70-80 percent of all NFL players own some sort of firearm and many of those carry guns on them for protection.
THAT weapon! And possibly many others! Feasibly a whole arsenal! Potentially an armory! Several unnamed sources have estimated I might have a fact somewhere!
There may be numerous unknown incidents where owning a handgun saved an athlete’s life. It just seems guns get players in more trouble than get them out of it.
That message continually seems to be missed by today’s players.
No shit, Sherlock.
Athletes admittedly have a difficult line to walk. They are targets of beer goggled, pot-bellied wanna-be’s and genuine first-class thugs and hyenas.
Yet packing high-powered weaponry might not be the best way to protect yourself. Tempers and ego can drastically affect judgment, leading to the very situation an athlete is trying to avoid.
“Here are some more obvious statements as I make my way to minimum word count.”
Even highly trained police officers, on rare occasions, have difficulty maintaining their cool in the heat of the moment. See: Diallo, Amadou, New York.
Harrison may have purchased his weapon strictly as a collection gem or as some form of protection. He owns, according to media reports, some several dozen guns. Thus making him Dirty Harry Harrison.
Ba-ZING!
Harrison might not have fired a single shot in this incident but he’s learning even non-discharged guns can still get a professional athlete into plenty of trouble.
Oh, all sorts of trouble. As I write this, police are holding Harrison’s feet to the incendiary nature of this column. This poorly constructed, horribly argued, meandering column that attempted to prove the well-established point that athletes shouldn’t carry guns. Bra. Fucking. Vo.
May 8th, 2008 at 11:23 am
One word: Beautiful.
May 8th, 2008 at 11:25 am
That was fucking perfect.
May 8th, 2008 at 11:26 am
,This is more about athletes, guns, and their continued mistaken impression that owning one automatically means you’re better protected.
I think if you’re packing a gun that can fire bullets through Kevlar, AREN’T you “better protected” than, say, someone with a knife? God, people are stupid.
(And boys with guns make me hot. So. Yeah.)
May 8th, 2008 at 11:26 am
Fine, I apologize for botching the gun’s caliber in yesterday’s post!
May 8th, 2008 at 11:28 am
Take a deep breath now, soldier.
May 8th, 2008 at 11:31 am
KSK: Come for the dick jokes, stay for the righteous skewerings.
Amen, CC, well done.
May 8th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Encore! We proud second amendment following citizens now have a voice and it is CC. Thank you good sir!
/standing ovation
May 8th, 2008 at 11:44 am
Niiiiiice.
Maj – On behalf of all fucking gun nuts, your apology is accepted.
May 8th, 2008 at 11:45 am
So you’re saying you agree with the article?
May 8th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Why does he have that gun? Uh, it’s small, handy, and has negligible recoil, but still has a chance of slowing an attacker down?
May 8th, 2008 at 11:47 am
I once got to fire a SAW. It was awesome — I shot better than all the other Marine wives.
May 8th, 2008 at 11:49 am
Wait, wait, wait.
CC was in the military?
May 8th, 2008 at 11:50 am
Soo…why didn’t that dude write about all the hunter-athletes who have guns that can do some serious damage from a long distance?
May 8th, 2008 at 11:52 am
CC was in the military?
I think he was a reserve or something.
May 8th, 2008 at 11:52 am
Oh my freaking lord. What an incredibly idiotic column.
May 8th, 2008 at 11:55 am
I think he was a reserve or something.
Weird. You think he might have mentioned it.
May 8th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Have we gotten confirmation from anywhere that this had nothing to do with the Romulans? Because there is only one thing that scares me more than honey badgers: Romulans.
May 8th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Weird, CC writes about guns and the military. I don’t think I’ve ever seen any other contributions on this site from him. I’m surprised he didn’t write a similar response to BDDs gun range Vegas trip. Kidding! Don’t shoot!
On the plus side, you made it quite obvious how terrible of a writer Freeman is. His work inspires me to find a similar job!
May 8th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
“No shit, Sherlock”
We would have also accepted “Elemantary, my dear Fatson”.
May 8th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
I’m still pissed at Freeman from when he referred to the potential WVU/Missouri BCS matchup as the “Hicks vs. Heehaws” game. See below:
http://www.joesportsfan.com/column.php?postid=1001
May 8th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Two words for you, Freeman: Sean. Taylor.
Asshole.
May 8th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
and i don’t even carry guns no more, i don’t got to.
‘got under-cover cops that’ll legally pop you.
May 8th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Good job, sir, good job!
May 8th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
You forgot the Hi-Power
May 8th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Mose Schrute would like a word with you.
May 8th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
I don’t necessarily agree with all your points, but this was a really interesting read.
May 8th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
They tek urr jrrbz!
Now they wun tek urr gnnz!
Guns are fun. As with all things, the love for the lead-spitting second cock can be taken too far. But I enjoy blowing off some steam at the shooting range twice a year.
Seriously though, until World War Z happens, nobody in the US needs to own more than a single home-protection pistol. Unless they’re a hunter, in which case a shotgun and rifle is fine…but eat what you kill or the Nuge says you’re a pussy.
May 8th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
This is all standard k-5 curriculum for the Chicago Public School system.
/shits pants
//scared to go south of Fullerton
May 8th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
Have you sent this to Freeman’s editor? Maybe if someone called him out for the sloppy job he was doing, he might try reading Freeman’s meanderings before giving it the thumbs up.
May 8th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
The real point the guy was making was “Doesn’t it trouble you that so many athletic black men own guns?”
To counterpoint though, some hicks were giving Jason Taylor shit in florida a couple years ago, and he didn’t need a gun to make them piss themselves and run away.
May 8th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
I remember running into a Bulls player a number of years ago and we got into a somewhat deep discussion about the perils of being visible and rich. He got ticketed by police for carrying a gun in his car within Chicago city limits and was pissed about it. He told me that he had numerous discussions with other players around the league about how guys targeted them for hold-ups, home invasions, and car jackings. Most carried weapons or had part-time private security contracted to protect them.
Just recently, Antoine Walker and Eddy Curry were both robbed in their homes at gunpoint. Paul Pierce and Nazr Mohammed were also targets a few years back.
And yes, Sean Taylor. (and Darrent Williams)
Now I’m not personally a big fan of guns…I don’t carry one and hopefully won’t ever feel the need to, but I can absolutely see why a professional athlete would feel the need to protect themselves. These guys are all very visible targets for violent crimes and have every right to protect themselves, their families and their property. For Freeman to miss that point completely is inexcusable.
May 8th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
Hitting something from 50 meters away? Forget about it.
Have you tried turning the gun sideways with your arm above your head whilst yelling, “BREAK YO SELF, FOOL”?
May 8th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Hey – great post to read on the day of my EAS from the Marines. Cheers on the superb column deconstruction. Once again, a “real” journalist is shown for what they are by someone with a brain.
May 8th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
^I am disturbed by the absence of “horsef&cker” references in this thread.
May 8th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
He’s so dreamy, despite my obligatory mention of his lack of pigment and poor taste in shirts.
Also, I would like to fire a LAW into Mike Freeman’s* ass and perforate his remains with a BAR.*
*actually I hate Doyel more, but prefer to go with the flow
May 8th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
That was fucking amazing.
May 8th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
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May 8th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
When did this become the NRA nut site?!
No dis to the arguments posted I like shooting guns as much as the next dude but I felt like I was hanging out at a gun show, wearing a T-Shirt with Hitler on it saying something about how he passed gun control laws too while reading this.
My Dad’s greatest fear is that Barack-a-Hillary is a comin’ to his house to take all his guns away…From his cold dead hands.
May 8th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
How does a semi-auto pistol get classified as a submachine gun?
“From the website enemyforces.com: “The “Five-seveN” Self-loading Pistol is a new generation and conception weapon. Technically it is classified as an ordinary submachine gun but tactically it is a Personal Defense Weapon. “
May 8th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Wait just a god damn minute.
What gives a BLOGGER the right to criticize the work of a real, trained, professional journalist?
He works for a periodical. He obviously knows what he’s doing. They don’t just hand out those jobs to any jack ass who still thinks that print is a valid medium.
Or DO they?
May 8th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Keep in mind that Matt isn’t defending gun ownership, he explicitly says as much. He’s just calling out this reporter on his ignorance. I’d love to hear his take on Generation Kill.
May 8th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
//scared to go south of Fullerton
Pussy. Good thing Boystown is north of Belmont.
May 8th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
It’s a good thing KSK posts identify who posted them. Coulda sworn this was Ape.
May 8th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Thanks, Ken Tremendous.
May 8th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
@MRubio52
Trent Green’s milky-white skin makes it impossible to use a firearm in a malicious manner. It also makes him impervious to any and all other off-the-field shortcomings.
May 8th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
For the record, I’m not particularly fond of the Second Amendment. The problem is that most folks who are against it — not to mention a handful of those in favor of it — are ignorant of the weapons they decry (or own).
I don’t know how to solve America’s problem with gun-related violence, but ignorant discussion isn’t the way to do it.
May 8th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
This incident is only the beginning of the end for Harrison. Wait until The Hague gets on him for owning that thing.
May 8th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Actually, your highness, I think Ignorant discussion is EXACTLY the way to do it.
May 8th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
@ agua de la tierra – the entire south side of chicago thanks you for that…myself included.
May 8th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Enjoyed the read. Wish there was still a karmicpayback type outlet for this kind of writing that you do.
Doing Army ROTC versus Navy ROTC? That’s a decision that taunts me and laughs at me on a preeeeety regular basis.
May 8th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
It helps to hum “God Bless America” or the “Marines’ Hymn” while you read it.
May 8th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Uh, 50 meters? As in, half a football field? I don’t think I could hit the side of a barn with a pistol at that distance. Definitely not if it was moving.
/yeah, I’m a bad shot, but still…
May 8th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
For the record, I’m not particularly fond of the Second Amendment.
Oh yeah? Well, if I didn’t have this gun, the King of England could just walk in here any time he wants, and start shoving you around. Do you want that? Huh? Do you?!
May 8th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Fucking Freeman, A WAFFLE IS NOT A PASTRY! Not to mention that Belgian Waffles aren’t Belgian!
May 8th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
That assclown fucked up by calling the five-seven an “assault weapon”. The FN P-90 is a bullpup (shortened, because most of the barrel and action are in the stock) rifle, and THAT’s what he was probably thinking of (for all the sci-fi geeks out there, think of the short barrel rifle they use on the “Stargate SG-1″ cable TV show, which is the P90) in this case. This pistol uses the same ammo as the P90, but otherwise, the two weapons have about as much in common as a bull dyke has with a bullpen.
Oh yeah, and that “cop killer” ammunition the writer wet his pants over? It’s steel core, designed for maximum penetration on body armor. What he didn’t bother to find out is that NONE of this ammo is available to the general public. They’ve got to use normal lead-core ammo, which doesn’t penetrate NEAR as far into Kevlar as the hot stuff does. But I guess that just don’t matter when you’re well into a rant about how Marvin Harrison is morally equivalent to school shooters.
So, to sum it up: Freeman is an even bigger horsefucking douchenozzle of a fucktard than you originally thought he was, CC.
May 8th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
@ CC
Hey, I’ll admit whole-heartedly to being ignorant of guns. Shit, I barely know which end to hold. But I don’t think learning anymore about them is going to change my perception that a) they’re fucking dangerous in the hands of stupid and angry people, and b) the world is made up of stupid and angry people.
I know there are thousands, most likely millions, of responsible, intelligent gun owners across the globe. But unfortunately, they don’t make you take a common sense test during that five-day waiting period. A few apples, in this case, do spoil the barrel.
May 8th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
@ CC:
Well said my man. Way to break down that jackass’ article about MARHAR and his gat. I’m not really into guns either, but I guess a trip to the range with a SAW might change all that. Anyway, that frickin’ pansy’s innuendo then maybe, just maybe acknowledging that MARHAR might allegedly be innocent jsut strikes me as irresponsible, horsefucking bullshit.
Hey Freeman, I hear The Sun is hiring. Go write about soccer WAGs or some shit.
May 8th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Like several of the other commenters here, I don’t entirely agree with Cap’n Caveman, but this is definitely a quality takedown. I’d feel much safer living in a society where there were no guns whatsoever, but the reality is that America is a nation full of guns (I also spent three years living in South Africa, where guns are about as common as screwdrivers). As such, people have the right to own guns, and I sure as hell am not going to moan about a law-abiding citizen such as Harrison having one, regardless of which professional team he plays for. Fuck Mike Freeman, and fuck his shitty jokes.
May 8th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Does this mean we won’t get a cheerleader post this week?
May 8th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Out-freaking-standing.
May 8th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Ameli and CIS are for third world suckers. The Minimi is where the squad level fire support is at.
If the US military had been on point, you never would have had to experience the awfulness of the M-60. The MAG-58 has been in production for over 50 years.
We also made the legendary FN-FAL assault rifle, used by over 90 countries. We followed that up withe FN-FNC, which was widely adopted.
We made the GP35 (let’s be precise about this – the Hi-Power is a commercial name and applies to copies made by others).
The P90 actually has the magazine on top of the weapon. And we market it as the Personal Defense Weapon. The P90 is a good seller for us – lots of SF and QRT programs are supplanting their MP5s with the P90.
Now, if we can get an FN2000 to MarHar, that might boost those sales.
May 8th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
I’m buying a KSK t-shirt right now to pledge my funds to support the writing of future posts like this.
May 8th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Wait, the SAW is accurate now? I guess I just suck. Run, fuzzy bunny, run!
May 8th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
You Yanks and your stupid second amendment. What a ridiculous bit of legislation.
May 8th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Good stuff!
50 meters with a pistol…Hell I missed a feral hog just yesterday firing a scoped 30- 30.
Air Force weapons training
/sigh
May 8th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
P O D
You lost because the Kentucky Long Rifle was accurate at 10 times the distance of the Brown Bess! Get over it.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Wait, Ufford wrote this? I was expecting it to be flubby at the least! No fucking way the giegh mafia churns this out. Who’s the ghost writer?
May 8th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
as always, absolutely genious. . . another weenie writes an op-ed piece exposing his ignorance. . . one point he conveniently overlooked is that a well placed head shot can be fatal with a freaking paintball gun. . . not too many patrol cops are wearing 49 layer kevlar full cover headwear. . .
May 9th, 2008 at 1:21 am
My department has a P-90 (and it is awesome). There is almost no recoil – you can fire it on full auto with zero tracking – with a little practice you can do that one handed. I have shot the Five-seveN as well, and that is a sweet little gun. I’ve never been able to double-tap that well, but again, there is so little recoil that the gun barely bounces, and double-taps are easy.
As far as the body armor defeating rounds go, the tactical ammo will defeat body armor, and kevlar helmets as well. Of course, only government agencies can get that – we still have to go through the BATF every time we want more ammo. The ammo available for public consumption is sub-sonic, and does not have nearly the penetration of the restricted stuff. We shot up a couple of old vests (that had been taken out of service because they were too old) and the sub-sonic rounds did not penetrate, even when shot out of the rifle. After flipping the switch to full auto, several rounds did manage to break through the vest, but the vest had already stopped 25-30 rounds, and was no doubt already getting compromised. I can’t imagine that the round coming out of the Five-seveN is going to do much more to body armor than a regular 9mm.
May 9th, 2008 at 7:46 am
Don’t let Buzz read this piece, you didn’t use any dick jokes.
As much as I hate guns this was not a blog about guns. It was a well written post that could have been about mike freeman’s ignorance toward Pokemon.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:10 am
That’s good writing, keep it up KSK.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:37 am
Waffles = pastry. Mike Freeman, you’re an even bigger chode than I already thought you were.
Also, I’m not a gun buff or anything, and I’d probably pee myself if I were in a situation where I had to use one, but I love how he takes a statement about a gun being used by drivers and staff personnel and extrapolates that into an indicator of how powerful this weapon is.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:43 am
This is by far the best response to come out of the marvin harrison thing I’ve seen so far. Great writing and no sensational exageration about the baby killing capabilities of the fn five seven. Plus its actually informed past some tired quote about cop killing potential.
May 9th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Captain, you keep producing work like that, and you’re gonna have to explain to yo momma why KSK won its third award for best sports blog on the web. People in the MSM keep wondering why the criticism they get in the blogosphere is so withering. It’s because 1) having a fucking soap box doesn’t mean you actually have to mount the damn thing and say something, 2) if you do, it should be worthwhile, and 3) even if it’s not, it should be factually accurate.
It’s work like this that makes this site worthwhile. Thanks for your hard work and your duty as a jarhead.
Question for the house: how disturbed would the fuckup author be if the Colts player involved were Mr Manning? Intuition tells me it’d make Freeman so hot he’d make Peter King look like Mother Teresa.
May 9th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Great stuff.
May 9th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
I don’t get it. He’s saying that walking around packing heat, especially the kind of weapon which is specifically designed to pierce the body-armor worn by police, is NOT a good idea for a professional athlete. Do all the people in this thread actually agree with that?
The Second Amendment right to bear arms, regardless of what you might think of it personally, gives Harrison the right to carry the weapon (provided he has the correct permits, etc.). But just because he has the right to do it doesn’t mean he should be above reproach, or that an article questioning the wisdom of his decision is bad. A lot of things that are legal are bad ideas.
The way I see it, is that Harrison, even if he wants to carry a gun for his own protection, likely does NOT need what is widely known as a cop-killing gun. That’s common sense.
Oh, and the FJM-style bashing of the article wasn’t even funny.
May 10th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Brian, if you’d read some of the posts above, you would see that the rounds available to the public ARE NOT armor piercing. Yes, the gun is capable of firing armor piercing rounds (as are MANY guns available to the public), but the rounds are not available to the public. Capice? So blaming Harrison for owning a “cop killer” gun is silly. This gun is no more a “cop killer” than any typical .38 or .44 available. Read nonsubhomine’s post above.
May 11th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
GUNS AND FOOTBALL. SWEET.
May 14th, 2008 at 12:52 am
Much to my shock, when I decided I wanted a gun there was no bin at the wal-mart where I could pick up high-powered rifles and handguns for six dollars and no permit. MarHar had to go through the same process everyone else did to get his FN five-seveN. He has a Licence To Carry, which is not the easiest thing in the world to get. Hell, regular folks get denied all the time (especially here in Assachusetts). The five-seveN can fire armor-piercing rounds, but Joe Jerkoff can’t buy that ammo unless he’s law enforcement or military, and even they have to deal with the BATFE.
You don’t have to love guns to understand how the process works. People like Freeman are the ignorant bunch who hear select words and make conclusions on assbackwards assumptions. And he compared MarHar to Columbine and Virginia Tech?! Get the fuck out of here. An upstanding guy and law-abiding citizen in MarHar who legally and responsibly owns a gun discharges it in a situation where all the facts are still not yet known. Columbine and VT are a couple of head-cases who went on a killing spree.
Freeman’s article is pure garbage, but what kind of idiot editor lets this thing print? Nice job ripping it apart, CC, but I don’t think it had enough dick jokes to get Buzz’s attention.
May 23rd, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Cheap Paintball Guns…
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July 30th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Sign the petition to get Mike Freeman fired. Poor writing and poor journalism has gone on too long. http://www.petitiononline.com/43121212
December 8th, 2008 at 6:19 am
Haha great article. I’ll be honest, I hate the cry baby idiots who take news and manipulate it so that they can push their liberal agenda. I do think Harrison is guilty however, and some how he recieve some BS aliby. Honestly this guy is a sure in for Canton, so maybe the NFL decided to do something to keep this guy and his legend untarnished. He lied to the police about the location of the weapon, why?